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Although it’s nice to be considerate of your coworkers, we really don’t owe our lives to our jobs. If they were getting fired, would they have 2 weeks to leave…?
Agree. It’s annoying but it’s not the end of the world.
Question: Would you give a two weeks notice if you were letting them go??? No you would not. So what makes you entitled to a notice?
I have had jobs give me a 1 month notice before I was let go. Mostly for there own benefit, I had to train my replacement.
How have past resignations been handled? Have these employees witnessed someone being told not to work out their two weeks or someone being walked out?
Great question. The first one worked at another bank and had a lot of trauma from that. He was the first to give notice that it would be his last day that day. He also told my entire team BEFORE me.
My team and I talked about it and I shared that I expect them to talk to me and we tell the team together should that happen. The second employee has seen 2 others leave during their time since they’ve been around longer. Both times the employees gave 2+ week notice and worked the entire time and we celebrated them with treats/Happy hour to wish them well.
The only employees that haven’t left with a fulfilled 2 weeks and a warm sendoff in my 8 years as a manager were the very few that were terminated long before this employee came around. I am just appalled.
I was a director at my last job and honestly could not take the continued toxicity and emotional abuse of the administration above me. I worked 80 hours a week and no one there had any regard for me or what that took away from my children, as a single mom. I was not compensated for my extra time; it was expected of me because I was salary. I’m 40 years old and have never left a job on bad terms. One day, I’d had enough. Enough disrespect, enough sexism, enough lack of compensation, enough self-loathing for feeling stuck. I dropped my laptop and badge off and walked out the door. I hit send on my letter of resignation which was effective immediately. They called. Asked me to come back. I said no. Enough giving to someone who can’t or won’t reciprocate. If employers want retention, they have to evaluate self and policies. I feel zero remorse for how I left. I got a new job, higher pay and less work, two days later.
Are you sure they had a good experience? 😬
My instant reaction to this is, just because your the manager doesn’t make you a good manager. That kind of egotistical thinking would have me running out the door.
If y’all don’t give us 2 weeks notice before you fire use why do we owe you the same courtesy? At the end of the day these companies don’t give a shit about us. You could die today and they’ll have your position posted up on LinkedIn a couple hours later. And I’m sure every manager thinks they’re a good manager 😂
It's the new world of work.
If companies can lay people off or fire them with no notice, then why would we expect people to give us notice when they quit?
I might be an outlier as a Gen X in management but I am so happy to see the younger generations prioritizing their lives over work, knowing their worth, and working their wage.
I would expect this trend to continue and start developing back up plans for when it happens again. At least this way you won’t be stressed.
Sounds like you need employees way more than they need you. Time to start paying accordingly so they don’t just walk out for better jobs.
Mentor
How do you know for sure they had a good experience? The bottom line is that giving a notice of any kind is a courtesy and not a requirement. When companies treat employees as disposable, we can’t be surprised when employees turn around and do the exact same thing. I’d focus more on how to retain employees and how your company is treating employees before assuring yourself that this is all on those two employees being part of a “gen z fad” which to me, sounds a lot like not wanting to acknowledge there is probably some amount of not a good experience with the company/manager at play here.
Maybe you weren’t the great Manager you think you are!
I put in my 2 weeks on Friday. The only reason I gave them notice was to get paid for my unused PTO. I don’t feel valued at the company and I’m not having a good experience working there anymore. If you don’t feel valued and respected, you don’t have to show value and respect for them either
Employment at will works both ways
Wow. I have not experienced this but what I have noticed about Gen Z and younger Millennial employees is that they are extremely unapologetic. They ask for what they want without hesitation but severely lack the ability to read a room or situation. There’s rarely a sound foundation or logic behind what they ask for. It’s working for now, but the market is changing…it’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out when employees actually have to live up to their titles. There has to be a middle ground between the Boomer workforce and what we’re seeing now.
Yes, the middle ground is called GenX and Xennial…
My friend quit without notice bc the work environment was toxic and she didn’t want to go into the new job with that mindset. So she took the two weeks to decompress and do what she wanted before she started a new role
At my job Anyone who has given their two weeks are let go on the spot. They company says the two weeks is a courtesy and they decide not to use it. So basically if we leave we better be prepared to quit that day
While it would be nice to expect notice, I don’t blame them for leaving this way. People have limited knowledge of past protocols & they cannot even read cursive. Things are so different now and people are not social and engaging as they used to be. We had 17 interviews, hired several who agreed to start dates and only 2 showed up. I’m in a supervisory position and I am never made aware when upper management is going to be out even though I have to help when they’re gone. Employees are taking the same days off and our lead team gets ‘quietly promoted’ to various positions with no extra pay for the added work. Things are not what they used to be and we need to adjust because I don’t see courtesy being the wave of the future. I personally have lowered my expectations and approach everything and everyone as if it were my/their last day and we have to do more with less. The biggest thing is I never take anything personal- it doesn’t matter if you think your actions or advice help- people are going to do whatever they want, period. Is it a good practice for me? Possibly no, it may be a band aid, however, for now it’s working and I have kept my sanity.
I totally agree with this. Things are not as they used to be. A lot of protocols that used to be standard practice are either ignored or just unknown. I’ve had candidates arrive at our office recently for an interview for a position in finance wearing Jordan’s and casual jeans. I understand if the younger generation doesn’t care about this stuff, but it definitely has an impact on the impression they leave with our more traditional employees in management. To them, it’s insulting if someone arrives for an interview dressed in less than business casual. I’m not even that old (I’m 35), but I definitely notice the disconnect in standard business practices between our older employees and younger employees. Our younger employees typically are the ones to give little or no notice if they are leaving. I think giving no or little notice is bad on the employees and company (in most cases). Managers might feel obliged to disclose no notice given if another employer reaches out for an employment verification. It could make a difference between being considered eligible or ineligible for rehire.
Loyalty swings both ways, unfortunately neither side has much anymore.
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1st thought is bad management doesn't know they are are bad. Maybe find a way to let you employees review management and the company anonymously. You might learn about your management style. Even consider finding an online survey the two former employees can take.
So then why are you still commenting how appalled you are by their lack of notice? If you know the reasons they couldn’t provide two weeks, then you are completely overreacting and taking this so personal.
If you fired someone, would you give them notice? Not typically. So why do employees have to give more notice than what an employer is expected to give?
Especially considering what if you give 2 weeks notice and the job ends up not being available? What if you fail the background? What if your boss decides they don’t want you to work a notice - so they are being punished and losing pay for giving you a courtesy of a notice.
Giving a notice is outdated and I expect as long as companies treat their employees as replaceable, workers will start quitting without notice on a larger scale.
Don’t take it personally, it has nothing to do with you. It has to do with what was right for them - and sometimes it’s better to give no notice so you know your job is secure and you’re clear to start.
I just gave 38 days notice at my job. 38! I have that amount bc of respect for my friends who would take on my insane case list. Still treated completely disrespectfully with no sense of responsibility or urgency by the firm to help transition my files. They even told me I was being mean for leaving when a partner will be trial and asked that I give 60 days notice. At this point I wish I had given no notice at all.
Give ‘em an inch and they will take a mile.