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As delta becomes the dominant variant and is known to be as transmissible by both the vaccinated and non-vaccinated, can we really continue to blame the non-vaccinated anymore for the spread? If so, why?

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I mean it’s not really all too much about the spread either, it’s to prevent people from dying and becoming extremely sick for the short or long term. From what I’ve seen, pretty much everyone dying right now is unvaccinated. Everyone walking around spreading it around but no one getting sick and dying is obviously extremely different than people spreading it and people getting sick and dying

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It’s insane how bad the anti vax crowd is at understanding basic science. Only break thru cases are transmitting potentially among the vaccinated. There are very few breakthroughs cases. The problem is overwhelmingly the unvaccinated particularly in terms of severe disease and transmission. This is not hard . I believe you all have the brain power to figure this out.

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Gcwm pretty sure that isn’t true.

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Yes, higher transmission rates increases likelihood of further mutations

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My family members who are hospital staff have told me most of their current Covid patients are unvaccinated.

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Yes

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To a degree, yes, because by staying unvaccinated and it spreading, this leads to new strains. There is still a responsibility by all (vax or no vax) to not be an idiot and wear masks in crowded settings to slow whatever is spreading

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It’s a game of likelihood’s and measures on measures. The analogy is off since medicine is far more complex than cars. But airbags, seatbelts, traffic lights, speed limits and non-drunk driving is about as close as one could get in trying to prevent something and the effectiveness of saving you if you do it and still get in an accident.

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The only cure to the virus is sitting

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Unvaccinated people/ different rates of vaccination across geographies is the reason for new strains!

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Yes because unvaccinated people spread at a much higher rate i.e. the continuing pandemic is their fault

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Yes I speak for all vaccinated people when I say everything wrong is because of those who are unvaccinated. I also speak for all vaccinated people when I say we are not critical thinkers.

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There’s also 1 million plus undocument non-vaccinated people who have entered the country and have been shipped across the nation. This is also a big factor affecting public health.

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Love that bit of covert anti immigrant rhetoric! Go Deloitte 2! Where do you get your stats from? Newsmax? Fox? Protofascism.com? Fun fact - of the 11 million undocumented workers, a lot were keen to get vaccinated since they are a core part of the “essential” worker workforce. With community outreach through their kids even the more sceptical (and less likely to speak English) and older population has been making strides. Their biggest worry is deportation. Also, even if those 11 million were a problem, how many Americans haven’t gotten their shot yet? Here is a handy map for where they mostly live.

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We need at least 5 more booster shots honestly

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The ptown cases did not confirm this. Cases among the vaxed were majority of folks vaxed in last 100 days. So they do not suggest wear out of the vaccine.

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Yes

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Viewing it as a “blame” situation is inherently flawed and not a good public health strategy for many reasons. But if we’re looking at the bulk of overall cases and hospitalizations, it’s clear these are occurring primarily in unvaccinated adults. If everyone was vaccinated or had immunity from prior exposure, the virus would have fewer people left to infect, and would result in far fewer severe cases and deaths even when reinfection or a breakthrough case occurred. Eliminating 100% of the spread is likely impossible, but evidence shows that vaccines save lives, turn Covid from a deadly disease into a cold, and create a wall of protection for high-risk and immunocompromised people who can’t get the vaccine.

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Even though vaccinated folks may get and/or transmit the virus, their hospitalization and death rates are still lower. To me that's better than nothing. I'd rather not be hooked up a ventilator or die of I don't have to.

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Government won’t mandate vaccination. However private sector can and based on recent news about some major employers requiring vaccination: there is a collective losing of patience with the unvaccinated. What we are seeing is a shift from incentivizing those who vaccinate to making life more difficult for the unvaccinated.

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Australia too

You thinking you want to blame the vaccinated? If so, I don’t know what to tell you.

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Everyone’s trying to find someone to blame, and I think that’s part of the reason we’re in this mess. The whole outbreak was just poorly handled from the top down, and all we can do now is try to stop the spread of not only the virus but also misinformation/disinformation. We had a golden opportunity to find common ground and unite to stop a common threat and care for one another...We dropped the ball, our pants fell down, and we tripped and fell, a fart came out too, all in front of our crush. I can’t blame a person for being misinformed or hesitant, I can blame the sources of their information and lazy planning/precautions on the local or state level. I just don’t want people to die from something preventable. I know too many people who’ve lost someone to this virus, and I can’t imagine a more painful lesson for a family to learn. Everyone’s trust is broken and as a result we have a ton of echo chambers and people going off the deep end because of it. I just feel that if lockdowns and mandates are back in play, the percentage of more extreme people (who have fought against restrictions every step of the way) might snap and lose it. I’m sure the people who’ve adhered to safety measures will also be livid. My concerns are where the anger will be directed and the ripple effects and further responses. It’s a recipe for disaster. Recently heard some states are now changing their stance on the vax. Prob bc they don’t want delta to effect the market and their investments so they’re trying to incentivize ppl to get the vax. Hope it helps but it’s really hard to sell people on something when you’ve been telling them the opposite thing for an extended period of time. On a slightly related note, I do know some people will be pissed after all this time, if an unvaccinated person gets sick leaving all work for someone else to do. My one friend said someone caught delta and was thankfully only out a two days bc they were vaccinated. They said everyone’s wearing masks in the office, but someone they work w is anti mask/vax and thinks it’s all a hoax. My friend is worried they’ll get very sick leaving all their work for him to do and he’s already incredibly overworked. Thanks for reading my novel haha. Be kind to one another, perspective and communication helps. And if you find yourself in a rabbit hole of conspiracy or paranoia, turn on incognito mode and browse the topic you’re concerned about. I’ve come to find that algorithms hinder understanding, and it reinforces certain perspectives/echo chambers. Outlets (large and small) take this into consideration and cater their content to appeal to viewers’ mentalities that they helped shape... there’s no profit in backpedaling.

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Unvaccinated are more likely to get it vs breaking through the vaccine of a vaccinated person. Given this the unvaccinated are more likely to then spread it with more unvaccinated getting it but also a much much smaller number of vaccinated getting it as well. Yes the vaccinated can get it and transmit it but the chance of them transmitting to another vaccinated person is again low vs an unvaccinated person. This means either way unvaccinated are the problem because the are more likely to get it from either and then spread it. At the end of the day this isn’t going away soon or likely ever. We will likely need annual boosters. Bc as someone else said, it’s not just the US but the world that has to get and stay vaccinated to beat this given how much travel there is today. That being said I think we should do our part for the US and the world by mandating vaccines or using sticks to get there. Sticks being companies requiring it, gov requiring it for welfare and SS checks, a tax once a year like the uninsured tax, vaccine passports for in-person school, flying, public transportation. If you make it so unvaccinated people can hardly function in society without having it they will quickly get it and then we can move on.

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