Former employer (in two partner firm) let me go as it wasn't a good fit. It truly wasn't and there was no justifiable business need for an associate. Separation was amiable and he said I could say (i) I left for whatever reason I wanted and (ii) I still worked with the firm until I got a new job to avoid gap in resume. We didn't discuss in depth so I don't know if he'll remember when a potential employer calls for verification. I'm conflicted on the end date to list on my resume. Advise, please.

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I suggest calling him to let him know that you are still hunting for the right fit, that you are still relying on his agreement to let you say you are still employed, and that he may hear from firm x soon. If your job search continues for another couple of months, you should probably check in with him again.

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Thanks. Looks like the most prudent thing to do.

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This assumes that a potential employer is going to call your current (or semi-current, whatever) employer to verify you work there. I have never heard of anything like that at all. At least in my experience, most employers take resumes at face value, and I assure you people make much bigger lies on their resume than "I don't technically work there anymore" and get big-time jobs all the same.

So, just take your old boss's advice and list that you still work there and come up with a decent reason for wanting to leave.

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I'm not saying it'll never happen, but in general, hiring managers have way too many resumes to read and interviews to schedule to do a deep check on every candidate, not to mention the limited time of the partners actually doing the interviews. Plus, it kind of gives a bad impression; like if you're anal enough to not trust my resume, how overbearing are you going to be when I actually work for you? People definitely take advantage of that trust--look up the stats for people making up entire jobs or degrees on their resume--but there's just not enough time in the day.

I had one month of website time. Again not a good fit situation mostly not my doing. Had an interview with a different firm. That partner wanted to reach out to my old partner. I could not say no. They both worked together. Was told a good reference will be given if asked. No offer.

I don’t deserve to be where I am. That’s unfortunately the reality of our practice. We need to stop doing this to younger lawyers. Stop judging lawyers by their gaps.

Ask the partner if he will stick to his word. Sometimes they will not follow through.

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Not every partner is like this. This one got sanctioned in the past. One of the reasons it was not a good fit was my tendency to do exhaustive rule 11 analysis. I was always considerate and only ever raised these issues in person. Also never the issue alone but the solution as well. Prior firms have liked my approach as it saves them a ton of effort down the line. Not here. Did not realize he was offended by my effort to set us up for success.

This guy is pretty senior in the state I practice in. I am not going to find it easy with him actively bad mouthing me. Must have triggered him on the prior episode of sanctions when I discussed these issues.

You are probably going to be ok. Not sure I get to pick my next firm. It’s probably going to be whatever comes my way. I have done great work in the past. Just this firm was terrible.

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Also, I am mainly concerned because I think the gap (4 months) negatively affects my resume/employability.

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“Yeah that sounds about right” is what they’ll likely say. You’re fine

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Less is more with these reference checks. Off hand comments can get you sued…

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