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I left a job once after 5 months, which felt super awkward, but I had to do what was best for me. If it comes up in an interview, I would say something like: I’m so excited for this opportunity, I couldn’t pass up the chance to talk to you. My potential for growth in my current job feels very limited. Your company feels like a company I could really grow my career at.
Avoid bad mouthing your current company because that can come off poorly, but just say something about how growth and opportunities there are limited and you’re excited for a better fit.
I left a job after 11 months and while not identical, it's still very similar and for a lot of the same reasons. When I was interviewing, one of the first questions was always "Why are you leaving your current organization after such a short stint? How do we be sure you aren't going to do the same here?" And it's valid.. I have a few recommendations:
1. Keep it factual and professional.
- You don't have to hit on the messy details, but focus on what you're looking to next.
- Something like.. "I joined to stay active in my field, but I realized the role doesn't align with my skillset or long-term career goals. I've learned a lot but I am looking for a position where I can apply my experience in a more structured environment with better opportunities to grow."
2. Normalize the short tenure.
- Layoffs & unemployment are REAL right now. They know that too.
- "I had to rejoin the workforce quickly and it gave me the opportunity to get back into hands-on work, but I'm looking for a long-term role that matches my expertise."
3. Be confident in how you deliver the story.
- I think this might be the most important ultimately. As silly as it may seem, practice telling your story in the mirror. Get really confident with it. Obviously you know your skills and abilities, and what a lot of hiring managers are looking out for is confidence in your work and your long term aspirations.
You got this :)
Great advice!
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It's OK if you do it a handful of times. Just say it was a bad fit. Unless you're job hopping constantly you're fine, especially if you have a few jobs where you've stayed multiple years.
I’ve only done it once when I’ve quit within 1 year. The other two that were short term were contracts which ended and I listed as such on my resume.
A few years ago, I was struggling to find work. I got a reference from a friend and he told me all the caveats and red flags before I joined. It was a small startup with about 7 employees.
I thanked him for the opportunity and decided to give it a shot.
During the interview, it was clear that all these red flags were real. I was told I had to read self improvement books on my free time before I joined because he said I was a poor communicator and he wouldn’t tolerate I break his culture.
He was a micromanager, and couldn’t wrap the fact I was better than him at programming. Everyday, my morale would go lower and lower. I kept saying it’s temporary while I search for something else. I lasted 28 days. I quit over Slack and I wrote how toxic the CEO was.
The company went under 3 months after that.
Do the self assessment yourself. If you can hold the job while you look for another one, it’s a better option. But nothing should bring you down so that you need therapy.
I left a job after 4 months. It was bad culture, bad leadership, despite good pay. I returned to my prior employer for a bit of a pay cut (still better than before I left, though). Been back for 3 years now with zero regrets, and I appreciate my company more than I did before (even though I had loved the company before and only left to expand my experience, etc). I wouldn't have left the bad job without somewhere else to go, however; I was thankful for the opportunity to return to my prior company. I'd say to stick it out and do your best where you're at while looking for your next job.
that’s also a great answer, I’m looking to expand my experience so I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to meet with you etc. and yes stay in the job until you have an offer.
I said I quit because I didn’t like the work I was doing. But after I got a new job I now tell recruiters my previous company delayed my start date, which explains why I worked at the other company for 7 months and I had a 3 month gap in between.
FYI my company did delay the start date, but I left the other firm after I got the offer letter with what I thought was the set start date. And then they delayed it 3 months.
Twice. The first was after college. I hated the job, and had a young family that would have to move for it, so I quit and went back. Shortly after, found my job for the next 10 years.
Second time, after 3 months, realized that I liked my previous job better, Left on great terms, boosted my assistant into that position, Returned to a large raise, now my son works at the place where I left.
Bottom line, give honest work wherever you are, if your job is reasonable, but you hate it, leave on good terms.
You have a good skill, you'll get something else.
Twice I left a permanent position after four months. First time was going back to the company I had just left, when I realized I'd made a mistake - they really liked me and were glad to have me back (in retrospect there were family things that really threw me and made me think I had to move - it took a few months for me to realize my mistake). Second time was an opportunity offered to me that was hard to turn down. Neither of these has been an issue in interviews since. I've been in the area since 1990 and my average job has lasted two years, some less time, some more. You don't have a contract with your employer and your employer doesn't care about you - they would lay you off tomorrow if it meant more profit for them - so you should do what is best for you, not your employer. On the other hand, teammates are valuable and you should care about them - they may be the key to a future position...
Settle where you work for passion
Short term contract that is coming to an end. Took the job to expand your knowledge in XYZ and now you have the experience and looking for a more permanent option.
I have once after 3 months (after getting screwed over on hours). I say it's okay once or twice, but I wouldn't do it too often as it would make employers nervous with work history. I've also been off the job for about 2 years.
I'd say try to tough it out as long as you can, and find other work while you're working (especially with the current job market). I am currently on a job I am not a fan of and I am waiting for a year before I look again.
Yes, You can explain this as a fit issue. The role you started did not align with the requirements of the role you were offered.
either don't put it on the resume or stick it out for another 3 months - when applying now. Say that you saw an email for the position and it looks like such a great fit, because.....
Once left a job after 4 months. Luckily it was to return to a company I had previously worked for nearly 11 years. They say "you don't leave the company because of the company, you leave because of the people there", which is apt. Only good thing I did there was resuscitate my clearance.
I can handle the work very well, In sha’Allah. I’m a fast learner and always ready to give my best effort. I’ll make sure to do the right thing and perform the job with full dedication and responsibility.
Left a job after 6 months, granted I was approached by a recruiter for a position which offered technology and opportunities I was seeking but I still had to answer the question in the interviews. I explained I left the job prior to the 6 month stint as the company was regressing (I explained more in the interview than is needed here) so I took the offer and after being in the role for a while I wasn't working on things I was expecting from the JD. I didn't see an opportunity to grow my skills or career but rather I felt like I was the new person that was given remedial tasks (for reasons I won't explain here). I was confident in my skills and fine financially to take less than the market would pay for my skills if it meant getting back to my technical passions. When I accepted the new position (post 6 month stint) it wasn't for less money it was more. The job that I was at for 6 months validated one of two things when I left: 1) they agreed that my work was remedial and felt they could replace me quickly; and / or 2) their internal controls were worse than I thought, because I was not asked to return my signing bonus which was to be repaid in full if you left before 1 year (nor was it withheld from any of my paychecks). That's my experience, I hope you can build the same peace and confidence for yourself, don't dwell on the quick change but don't make it a habit.
I've noticed with short stints they sometimes don't go through the hassle of clawing it back. It's a write-off for them and comes out of a different bucket than the salary portion. I got laid off twice in my career in under a year and had gotten sign-ons and neither clawed it back.
During Covid I joined a consulting company and one of the clients was awful. Around 7-8 months in I complained that I didn't want to work with the awful client anymore and they said they could get me off the project in 2-3 months. I started interviewing right there and got the job before they could get me off the project, so I left. This new job I got a 50% raise, stock, actual PTO and bonuses.
Honestly, no regrets.
I’ve done it a few times and just said it wasn’t a good fit. No one questions it when a company lays someone off for that reason, so they shouldn’t when an employee makes the same choice. I point this out to them. It works both ways and both parties need to be happy with the employment relationship. I think we should all be fostering this attitude instead of feeling like we have to defend a good choice. It has never held me back and I had one employer tell me they respected my point of view.
As much of a problem it is for candidates to oversell themselves during interviews, I find just as often the hiring companies oversell either the corporate culture or the role. Most often they will hire for a specialist when what they really want is a generalist. Or hiding major deficiencies in the culture, even when asked directly by candidates.
If employers can see it is not a pattern of you 'job hopping' it should not be an issue. Choose your jobs wisely though as they can be a stepping stone to a better one.