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Some may. I definitely steer away from companies that are "bad" or toxic, etc. What I don't do is activity invest in only "good" companies by seeking them out. That said, i might look at a company if they had a lot of confirmed positive press. I think the problem is you really don't know what is marketing material and what is truth. PwC is the most unethical place I have ever worked yet they spend a tremendous amount of time on pr saying how ethical they are. Just a thought

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