Has anyone found a way to navigate and negotiate offer letter when hiring manager says “14-16 hours a day and 6 days a week is normal at the big4” ?

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“Best of luck filling the role.”

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😅😅😅

While I appreciate the up front honesty of said hiring manager, I question the culture of these places. I have a close friend who works in a large, global reaching law firm with the same mindset, and they lose associates left and right.. when will these giants realize that if they treat the employees better they will get more from them, keep them longer and be more successful.. ugh.

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Right?

I have walked out of this conversation with two offers on the table. Brand name of the big4 does not compensate for the human right you hold, that too when big 4 are promulgating themselves as ESG-aligned corporates!

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