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OP: Sounds like a tremendous waste of time for everyone involved.
MUST BE NICE. But if you like working where you are, think there’s room to grow etc, the best way to get a salary increase is to show them another offer. But that can get political really fast
This is 💯 you. No one’s advice is useful for this. Sorry. I think you know the answer to this one but want a different one
I’d personally wait until you’re two to three months out from wanting to leave. This industry is small and people talk. Your supervisor could get wind of your activities before you’re ready for them to know. Look on Glassdoor, it’s usually pretty accurate.
I’ve never gotten any info on salary or benefits until after I’ve gotten an offer. You can look at Glassdoor if you’re really that curious. Getting interview practice is a good idea, but there’s ways you can get that without potentially creating an awkward conversation for yourself down the line if you do want to apply to one of these places in the future. Just google “interview practice New York” or wherever you live
I'm also looking for practice through interviews, "the motions" and also rejection for when I am ready to leave, instead of doing it when I'm stressed and miserable.
Context: I've only ever applied to 7 jobs in my life and all but two I've gotten after interviees. One was Apple (retail) and one was an agency out of two I applied for out of college and got the job at the other. I really have no experience with rejection.
If you want to practice interviewing, I would start networking & doing informational interviews. You’ll get a little taste of the feelings of real interviewing too - nerves, rejection when they don’t reply, faking confidence, being okay in an awkward situation, etc.
Try finding people (who you actually would like to talk to) on LinkedIn, check out MeetUp and network at industry events, etc
SPM1 has a great point. Your local Ad Community is smaller than you think. Wherever you interview, someone knows someone that knows you.
I took a lunch interview once at my last job, 3 people had already found out about it before I was back in the office. Make sure the risk is worth the reward.
Agree with SPM1, totally hear your intent and it’s always good to know what you’re paid vs coming in fresh, but you need to be careful not to burn bridges. Small industry, people talk. Personally I would be truly pissed if I took time out of my 60 hr week schedule to interview someone for a position who was just wasting my time. That would almost guarantee when you’re ready you wouldn’t get a job anywhere where I am working, or any of my friends agencies. Most of us are spread really thin, working nutty hours and more often than not skipping lunches, so no time to waste. Be honest and request informational interviews, get close to your HR and inquire about other firms and salaries, go on 4A’s and research salaries (you can find good info there), also look through some of these threads or post a question. Most people are more than happy to answer salary and tittle anonymously. I’ve found some helpful information on this site about other agency practices.
SAD1: 😬😬 trust me, I know. Hence why I'd like to do this if it can work because I'm far too naive and hopeful of the world and prospects. I need to be broken down and removed of a soul.
@MartinAgency1...you're right. You're absolutely right. *Sigh* this post is the nail in the board that tells me what I need to know.
@OP - I don't think this is working out... I think we should stop posting to each other. Goodbye AD.
This is so so confusing ... I hear the most effective way to get a salary raise is to show them a counter offer. Considering how this industry drops us like flies is it really so bad that you’re constantly looking / talking to other people / re-evaluating what you’re worth?