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Both are struggling bad. But S& is better and backed by PWC. Kearney is a sinking ship. The firm is done, just operating based on core and shell.
What does core and shell entail for them?
Coach
I have an aversion to S& in the region because of the dominance of one particular ethnic group. The ability to rise in ranks and learn key consulting skills, in my view, is limited with that group. In other markets I would have recommended them. In the ME region, I would, with great reservation, suggest take the least odious option in front of you - Kearney. It is not going to close shop anytime soon, but is going through a tough time…and given their leadership and partner quality…along with high level of churn, I don’t think they will be sailing with full wind any time soon…I suspect it will eat worse before it gets better.
I expect more productive partners will leave shortly and that will cause further challenges to the firm economics, causing further retrenchment and even higher dependence on the key accounts, causing further discounts which then results in a shrinking partner bonus which then prompts further attrition of productive partners. Vicious circle really.
But K is still very diverse and has a good learning platform in place…one of the best consulting schools you can go to.
Coach
That is a real shame if that is the case.
Ignore the OCed Kearney bias. Want a real opinion? All consulting firms are not in the best shape right now simply because the main market slowed down. It’s not as easy as before, no fast track promotions left and right, no safety nets for bad performers, etc. While Kearney, S&, RB and other did do rounds of lay offs, they remain great firms that are hard to reject if you were given an offer.
No fast track promotions? Excuse me? What about those bad performing partners that were fast tracked?!
No safety net for bad performers? That’s why good people are OCed while HR Friends take LOAs, go and come back as they please!
Kearney is a sinking ship
Strategy& is struggling but I believe will be able to recover given the backup from PwC
Enthusiast
Avoid Kearney by all means
Enthusiast
C2, I was not part of the OCed folks, so chill.
OP - Trust me, Kearney is the worse house in ME. DM me and I can provide facts.
C2 not true. The ADS practice head that just left was one of the most toxic. Clear favourites, would lose his temper and shout at consultants and would just lie to the client ($9.57bn in savings…!)
Run like the wind from Kearney
I hear all these things about Kearney but then I still see them winning projects left and right in public sector… where is the truth?
Coach
Thanks K1 for leaving 5 comments in this thread only. Your opinion is clear too.
Thanks for keeping this community professional and unbiased.
Mentor
Depends if you are Lebanese or not
Coach
Of course without second thought, S&
Mentor
Tough call. If you aren’t from the ME, Kearney still has an edge over S& despite all the noise you hear about on here.
pays more, also letting you go the fastest
I work in S& and I know peers in Kearney. The answer depends on which industry you are interested in (S& has one of the strongest TMT consulting practices in the region) and if you already have some contacts in the company.
Overall I would recommend S& at the moment however it is quite challenging to build your credibility in the firm and it is required to do so within a short timeframe otherwise you are in the list of bad guys
Enthusiast
Agree with S&1, Kearney TMT practice is very weak in MEA. Would recommend OW or S& instead.
All firms are struggling right now. K better than S& overall. For specific practices would put S& higher. Despite current struggles, K is far better - diverse people and diverse projects. Also from what I hear there is an acknowledgement that things need to change and behind the scenes work is being put in. Will take time to materialize though. Certain practices are in a more comfortable position than others
Mentor
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Enthusiast
All firms are struggling somewhat tbh, no one has escaped unscathed in current market
Coach
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