How to succeed in public accounting these days if not an uptight Type A workaholic? Especially at manager or above. I have a real life and interests/identity outside of my job and I don't freak out over the slightest mistakes in workpapers but those seem to be who public accounting is for - especially these days. How do I succeed without letting the job take over my life or change who I am as a person?

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Have good boundaries and good sense of self. Freaking out about the slightest mistake and micromanaging do not make you successful. Being able to manage a crisis, know the difference between a true crisis and minor mishaps, managing the emotions of the client through both and learning when to take care of yourself all make successful leaders. Question is: can you have good boundaries and discernment on when you are truly needed vs not? Most of us do not, so we overcompensate by working extra hard and trying to control everything… but that’s a coping mechanism, not good leadership.

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These are all great points and explain a lot. I tend to go in the opposite direction. I despise being micromanaged and don't want to be a micromanager at all and avoid doing so. I want to trust my staff. I was lucky to have some managers (but some were awful) who trusted me when I was staff/senior to handle my work well without needing to insert themselves into everything or freak out over nothing.

Unless busy season, I generally set boundaries where I don't work at all on weekends. Not even a "let me check on work" on Sunday night even though I know most in our profession who are manager+ do that

What would be an example of a mistake that many in PA would freak out over? As a manager, do you not have mentors (who you actually work with on a regular basis), who could give you a very clear, thorough, and consistent thought process on how to approach this part of your role in the context of your engagements?

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I guess careless and sloppy errors that don't require client followup. We are in a very time-intensive job and it's understandable when staff have to rush a bit. I don't think it's anything to freak out over as long as it's just nitpicky granular issues which don't actually require major rework. At a minimum, if I think a staff person needs to learn - I am calm and don't act superior. When associates who barely get paid enough have to clock in 55+ hour weeks, you can't expect ridiculous perfection.

It’s a tough one and I agree, I feel like the majority of people who “succeed” in public are those uptight workaholics. People who need things to be perfect, always questioning everything, being a hardo over little mistakes, etc. A lot of that is just the culture and nature of the audit profession, but at the same time I don’t think everyone’s management style has to be that way. You can certainly handle your business differently and also set boundaries with work vs personal life. Don’t let it change who you are as a person, it’s not worth it lol

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