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Given that there's a real problem with teen suicides, and social media and bullying is just making it even worse, this seems like a pretty good idea. I don't like that it seems necessary, but we're living in grim times and a lot of kids really do need somewhere to turn. Seems like a smart move from California.
I don't have a problem with it being made easily available, but something about putting it on something that every single student carries around all day every day just seems like overkill to me. It's almost like we're assuming that every kid is a ticking time bomb that could go off at any moment. I understand that we're in unique times as far as youth suicide is concerned, but I don't know that putting it in their faces all the time is the best way to deal with it.
I think there comes a point of oversaturation. Crisis hotlines, suicide prevention, "Safe to Say," these numbers and websites are literally all over the school and in every handbook and guide available. I don't think there's any lack of access. As far as the IDs, kids may not look at them all day, but they look at them multiple times each day when they put them on in the morning, take them off at night, order lunch, order breakfast. They're forced to think about the subject of suicide 2, 3, 4 times a day whether they want to or not.
I understand the sentiment, don't get me wrong. This is a problem I've personally discussed multiple times on this very forum. I understand the importance of talking about it and having resources available. That said, I think we're reaching a point where the law of diminishing returns starts to kick in, at the very least. I also think that we should be spending more time and energy on what drives kids do do it in the first place, considering that this is a relatively modern problem, at least the degree to which it's happening.
Yeah I don't see anything very controversial here. Providing a hotline phone number is the least that schools can do to protect students. I think this should be a given.
I love this! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, absolutely kids should have this information and resource on them. We know the data, and we have the research that contradicts that the idea that talking about suicide and providing resources for suicide prevention will only make this problem worse.
Did you know that the Trump administration is scheduled to remove the funding grant for the LGBTQ 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline's, which offers specialized services for LGBT . This will go into effect July 17, 2025.
Trump also removed grants worth one billion dollars for mental health specialist in the schools starting in the fall. Not all states/districts spent this money to hire mental health providers, instead they spent their money on hiring more teachers.
teachers, not mental heath specialis those teachers would be laid off.
This is great to see. For all the talk about the importance of mental health, there never seems to be very much in the way of follow through. I'm always happy to see stories like this.
The best suicide prevention would be intense physical activities all day long, every school day. They should be exhausted before going to bed. It'll clear any depressions.
Yeah, I’m fine with this. I don’t understand why with all the things happening in California. This is what’s so controversial.
Things happen in Missouri too
Nevada is already doing this. Students are required to wear their ID badges at all times during the school day for safety reasons. RIP Uvalde 😇 Then they were provided bar code stickers to contact emergency services outside of school. The stickers are put on their badges. It’s the world we live in.
Why aren't we debating this issue? what the hell is happening at home and in schools that kids want hurt themselves? That’s where kids spend most of their time until they are 18. Therein is the problem.
Is there any problem we have that we can't blame on the Trump Administration? Apparently, this was not a problem when poor Joe was in office when his staff took full advantage of him in failing health?
Take charge and work on this problem as teachers and stop blaming others and passing the buck! Focus on loving these kids while teaching them to read, write, and compute in our highly tech society!
Agreed. And therein is the problem.
Two thoughts:
1) My concern: is putting that information in front of a kid multiple times per day actually CONTRIBUTING to the problem? Are we putting suggestions into minds that had not previously considered that extreme option? I was in the military when we did multiple world-wide stand-downs for suicide prevention training due to the increasing suicide rate (I recall 4 requires sessions in one year) and to me, the numbers seemed to raise even higher.
2) If this theory is true, even if it saves one more life than it potentially could cost, it’s worth it.
Since you like to scribble, highlight where I said these things shouldn't be available.
Let’s not forget this one too.
“ ‘I’ don’t have a problem…” well, phs1- if ‘you’ don’t have a problem w it by all means it means something 🤦🏻♀️
And this one, yes! You have stated a lot of different things on this thread about suicide interventions etc. And, our district has entire 10 pages of policy on suicide threats, suicide assessments, prevention, intervention protocols etc. we also have the same 10 pg policy for threat-assessments Own what you post. Damn