I am asking every successful woman this. I have been stuck as a technician/technologist for 15 years 🤯. I just interviewed for a pseudo management role and was turned down. My resume includes two years as a resident Assistant in college so leadership experience as well as child advocacy for neurodivergent children. I have a second job as an assistant manager at a fast food place. All this in addition to the 15 years of high level instrumentation operation and basic chemistry. 👇

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I wouldn’t lean on the RA position for evidence of management experience, mainly because it was a longer time ago, and I also wouldn’t emphasize the child advocacy as much either. Not that these aren’t great, but if you’ve been working at this job for 15 years and this was an internal role, it’s easier to focus on the most relevant experience.

Make sure you’re selling your training/mentoring experience with concrete examples and results. Also, get as much feedback as you can from your manager on what you need to get moved up. If it seems like they’re not willing to really help, then you’ll know it’s time to focus on external roles.

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You must convince them that you have management skills. Tell stories about how you managed people/projects using your past experiences and skills. Showing how you dealt with difficult customers at the fast food place would be a plus.

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Sometimes it isn't anything you did. There could have been another candidate that had a specific skill they are looking for. Ask for feedback.

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Give you have been in that role for that long, I’m assuming you might be someone who is a the subject matter expert, team lead, or taken the initiative on something?

Any history with mentoring younger techs, presenting at conferences, or included in interviewing?

The hiring world is pretty strange right now. I would suggest keeping an eye out for a career mentor/resume writer.

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I guess you could say I am a subject matter expert everyone comes to me when they have a problem/ question about instrumentation and what method would be best.

I have mentored/trained around 10 techs in my full time position and a further 20 in my fast food place. Both places intentionally schedule me with the trainee because I have developed a very successful training protocol.

The interviewer said I did great in my interviews. But there must be a phrase an action or something that these interviewers are looking for that I don’t have. What is it?

There are so many factors at play. Was this an internal promotion you were applying for? And do you have any informal leadership experience you can leverage next time you interview?

Yes, it was internal. I’ve been nervous about applying to external management positions…

As far as leadership opportunities besides training every new tech that walks through the door.. I asked my manager if I could lead a smaller low risk project that we just need to get done. He agreed and we built it into my IDP.

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Sometimes, especially for managerial chemistry roles, the job opening will list a broader education level than they are really looking for. If anyone with a PhD in chemistry applies (likely with a lot less experience than what you have, or even none at all), I bet they hire them. It’s unfortunate for our industry that the technicians aren’t taken more seriously and utilized more effectively with their experience.

Usually they are looking for facts in addition to the skills. For example- I optimize a so and so process saving $50,000 annually. Or, I designed and developed a pipeline which reduced features delivery time by 10%. You can see how that can be applied to your experience.

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