I keep seeing this one agency reposting a role with slight tweaks to the listing like PHARMA AGENCY or PATIENT-FACING EXPERIENCE. At first I thought it was a different role, but I go to apply for it and it says I've already applied and can't apply again.

I guess these could be BS listings. Just frustrating that I seemingly tick every box they claim to want in the listing but have been ghosted by the recruiter entirely without ever having a chance to speak to the CD.

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Ghost jobs.

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It's also possible that they really are separate roles AND the company has decided to reject you for all CW jobs based on some piece of feedback they won't give you.

So many things that could be happening here. People jump to "ghost jobs" when it's just as likely to be "shitty CD doesn't like you for some arbitrary reason" or "we can pay someone else less."

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Name and shame—it’s the Avalere listing

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Without even looking Avalere came to mind!

It’s unfortunate but I think there’s a fair amount of ghost jobs out there nowadays so I wouldn’t take it personally. I think some companies are also laying people off, waiting a certain amount of time, and then hiring someone else for a much lower salary.

You can always ask someone in here to refer you or even cold contact some of the CWs at the agency that has the listing and try to get in that way. I hope it works out for you, my old agency was desperately looking for copywriters when I was there.

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