I left MBB in 2018 when our first was born and joined a small firm with little travel and a lot of flex (at lower pay, of course). We are expecting our second in August, and I just got a job offer for an awesome internal corp strategy role that would require me to travel again. Not weekly, but 50-75%. It’s an awesome opportunity but I also really love being there for the day to day with my kid and want to be equally there for the next one. Any advice?

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Life is full of choices - this is one of them. There isn’t a right answer, just your priorities and what will maximize your happiness now and in the future.

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I got promoted to SM in EY(which btw is the toughest role in the firm) and then I had my kid, went on paternity leave.

While on paternity I realized how important it is to be home with my kid and wife especially during the initial years(0-5) and how much I would miss out if I’m traveling and working 12-14 hours every day.

So decided to quit and join industry for more or less similar pay, but I feel I make more for the actual hours I work in industry. You may get paid $300K but working insane hours, spending time on airports, airplanes and hotels if you factor all of that in, it isn’t actually that much.

Anyways I figured I can always find a great role after few years but I will never get the time with my newborn and the support I will give my wife during these initial years which by far are the toughest

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Agreed.

Ultimately do what is best for you and your family. Only you can decide that.

My take: I’ve never heard anyone say they wish they had taken X role or worked at Y instead of being more there for their kids when they were younger. It’s entirely the opposite. None of us know how long we have on this planet. In fact the hour is typically much later than we think.

Best of luck as I know this is a difficult and stressful decision.

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This ^, Eventually you feel happy when your kids are closer to you or come visit you more often later in the future, not sure a role today is going to give that happiness later in the future

Think of it this way: You already know the answer. You’re only coming here to validate it.

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Hmm what do you think the answer is?

I have two kids and have chosen to stay at Bain. It was the right choice for my family in the near to mid term as my wife stays home. It’s all about trade offs. Like others have said there’s not a wrong choice. Will you be happier in a more fulfilling job? Does that offset being away more? The answer there for me was yes and so I just make sure to be fully present when I am home.

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Will your wife be stay at home? Everyone I know that has that significant amount of travel has a stay at home spouse. If so, then I think it’s manageable. If not I think it’d pretty tough on your wife with two young kids. I can barely manage with two little ones myself and both my wife and I WFH.

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First kid just turned 2 years old. The second is 2 months. It wasn’t planned obviously but we always wanted 2 (albeit spaced ideally like 2.5-3 years apart) so were officially done (I got the snip).

Honestly the hardest part is our 2 year old. He requires so much attention and entertainment. He constantly is climbing things and getting into mischief it’s a miracle we haven’t had to go to the hospital lol. The baby aside from waking up in the middle of the night is a piece a cake comparatively.

If you can wait until they’re spaced 3 years apart Id recommend that. We’re in our mid 30s so we were anticipating it taking time for us to have another. Our first took a year of trying so we didn’t protect for our second thinking it’d be a while, but low and behold when I got my father days gift from my wife little did I know she was making me a father again.

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Probably a selfish take but here it is:

Which company has better paternity benefits and healthcare coverage? If it's the new company, switch, take pat leave and try to move into a different role in the new co.. If that's not possible, use all the benefits and jump to a different company. Your story could be that travel was getting intense so you're switching out. That way, you can even shortlist opportunities that will let you work remotely.

Plus, as a new hire, you'll have time to ramp up etc so I'm assuming the pressure will be a lot less. You can even go back to your current company at higher pay. Just make sure you leave on a good note. Good luck!

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Can you negotiate the travel time? Or is that too central to the role?

I think it will be heavier travel when I start to learn the business and build relationships, but it’s hard to say whether I’ll really be able to turn it down later.

This is definitely something you'll need to hammer out with your wife or significant other. Sit down and discuss the pros and cons. One thing I would say - don't take this job unless she's 110% on board, otherwise it'll end up blowing up in your face.

We had our first conversation about it and she’s supportive but I think she feels like she has to be because she’s had a demanding job for the past few years. We are going to keep talking about it, but I totally agree.

Echo what others have said about figuring out what’s best for you. *But*, in my experience, and I think a lot of others that I know, the 2nd kid isn’t twice the effort, it’s an exponential incremental amount of time and effort. Ymmv.

This here. It’s more than twice as hard because you can’t hand over a kid to the other person and take a break, ever. It’s at least one adult managing one kid all day every day.

Very tough. You can’t buy the time back. I left consulting for similar reasons and have not regretted it. Still get flashbacks on Sundays.

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