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Hi Fishes, I have received an offer from Barclays for AVP position. But the role discussed during interview was for Tech Delivery Manager whereas the offer letter mentions it as Tech Delivery Lead. Can you guys please suggest if it is the same role or should I request recruiter to get the role updated? Moreover it would be great if any of you can shed some light on the prospects/challenges of this role based on your experiences. Barclays Barclays global service center
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I don’t disagree with you, but I understand that some companies may have a potential tax obligation when their employees work from a country in which they don’t have a base.
G1: I’m very hesitant on escalating it to HR. One of the reasons is that if my manager gets wind of it that I tried to go over him and ask HR for the policy, he may let me go but then he’d make my life very difficult from that point onwards. The other reason is that I feel the HR would just say that “it’s at your manager’s discretion”, tell my manager that I reached out to HR regarding this, not ending up going and also landing up in my manager’s bad books. Double whammy.
My advise is you should never tell your manager that you’re going abroad to visit your family. What you do is your business as long you deliver the job. Because technically there is no difference between doing it from where you actually live or doing it from your parents house. Nobody would notice. To stay silent and make your moves is better than to ask since you anyway will be going even if your manager would say yes or no to you. Working remote can be done from anywhere in the world as long you’re using a right WiFi connection from wherever you are. So until next time please go and enjoy yourself working from wherever you want until the company says something to you and you just tell them that you didn’t know because it’s a remote job so you decide your office and from where you are most productive and keeping yourself motivated. The thing is managers always try to play as a bigger person and to try to have something to say because they want to feel the power from their seat that someone else have to listen to them and their ego
They may have geographical restrictions on access to their networks or applications that would not be reachable from another country or would look like an attack or a comprised account. If you normally login from Canada, and your next login come from India or Iran or Ukraine, its going to set off alarms. Also, some countries record ALL traffic in and out of their country via the internet. That could result is private company data being exposed to that country’s government or companies in cahoots with that country’s political party…eg China.
No you’re not. Was in a similar situation. It’s a red flag
I saw this is my company. One of my employees who is based in San Jose went to India for like 10 weeks over the summer. He took 2 weeks of PTO to cover travel and some down time but spent 8 weeks working there. It was a no brainer to approve it for me. I told MY boss about it in a casual conversation and he went nuts. Saying this was a BIG no no and I could get in serious trouble for approving it. It had to do with paying him a SJ salary while he lived in India.
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So taxes come into play based on company policy 30 - 90 days. But you just started 3 weeks ago and probably haven’t shown to your manager you work well remotely. Some people can do it very well and others just know they get distracted very easily. your manager might’ve had a bad experience with a remote employee prior to you and in return is very cautious when hiring you.
Typically when you go back for the holidays people really tend to work less. I don’t think it’s necessarily a red flag and that you should leave the company however it may be too soon and starting a company to start moving around your location whenever you want to.
I can understand that it took your manager by surprise because you probably didn’t mention it in your interview. And maybe here she is a little blindsided and probably lack trust. I would just put your head down and work very hard up until the point of it’s time to go and hopefully they don’t squawk about it.
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D1 I agree several take time off, this manager doesn’t want them working from another location/time zone. Not saying it’s right but they literally just started their job and probably still ramping up. Some could see this as taking a vacation without logging PTO. But I don’t think it’s a red flag to go look fur another job. Think it could have been communicated prior.
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It could be a red flag that he is overly officious - as others have suggested.
Or - playing the Devil's advocate - perhaps he just feels the sort of trust you are asking for needs to be earned, and you haven't done that yet. Once you've established yourself as productive and trustworthy he will be fine with it and otherwise be a good boss.
Let face it, we've all known people who start a job and immediately start acting entitled. I worked with one guy who immediately started abusing the company's flex-time and open PTO. Our boss was fine with the rest of us coming in late if we needed to, but not someone who had yet to prove themselves. I am not saying you are acting entitled, but perhaps that is how it is being perceived.
LM1: thank you so much for sharing this perspective. I had mostly been seeing it from only my perspective but you are right in saying that such a thing coming from someone who has just joined can definitely come across as feeling entitled and would be a red flag for any manager. Now I’m tasked with trying to salvage my connection with him, which is something I did not think would end up happening. I need to build that trust.
SF1: To be completely honest, I didn’t think it would have any impact on my ability to work. My work being remote, I thought that if I can work during the same hours and have a decent internet connection, then it would make no difference where I worked from. If my work had required me to be physically present here, then I would have shared such a plan with the HR the moment they said they’re going to extend an offer. But I can see from my manager’s perspective how this can look like I’m being dishonest.
There is no tax implication for a few weeks!
They are just putting pressure on you. I do think people can be distracted while in a different environment abroad and at unusual work hours
SAM1: Thank you so much! I also had the same thoughts that if my work requires me to be physically present, I’d likely have to drop my plans but because I’m remote, it shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t want to be too hasty to judge, but the way he handled this, I would have to adjust my approach towards work here quite significantly.
Unless there’s a major risk of distraction (high risk and a red flag for me) or a lack of connectivity infrastructure I can’t see why this should matter.
Thank you, I stay in a rather quiet house and my internet connection is ironically better at my parents’ place than here.
How would he know if you go to another country ?
I work as a cyber security engineer and we get alerts on this all the time. So and so has an unauthorized login from Italy, Mexico, Canada, etc. that was not an approved exception from company policy. Alert usually has all your info too. User who logged in, local time, ip address, geographic location, etc.
You’ll be found as soon as you log in lol
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Same thing happened to me, these employers are the ones that are unreasonable
I’m sorry to hear that, I hope things have gotten better for you now
I think a couple of weeks is okay. One start to run in potential tax, work authorization, HR issues if it’s more than a few weeks.
Chiming in. Do you have any export control restrictions you need to consider when performing your role outside of Canada? From my experience a lot of technical roles cannot be performed outside of Canada because of export restrictions.
In the event that this is not the case, then perhaps the thought is that you'll be distracted being away from your regular working environment and this will take away from your performance.
Now that you've asked the question and have an answer, you could find yourself in trouble if you go and your employer finds out.
From my experience, each company and team has its own policies. Just because working remotely doesn’t allow to work from a different country. One employer I worked for allowed 2 weeks working from another country only after completing an year with the company. Just giving you another perspective.
If truly remote, you shouldn’t have even have brought it up. I’ve traveled the world for months at a time and my company never new, because I performed my job flawlessly.
Something similar happened with me as well, you are not working to make this request.
So your manager is a d**k. Welcome to the club. In this market, I wouldn't do anything to antagonize management.
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This is a good article to help understand the complexity of the situation when the employer is informed: https://www.adp.com/spark/articles/2022/06/implications-of-work-from-anywhere-when-remote-workers-cross-state-lines.aspx
With that said, if it’s just a few days (<7). I personally just wouldn’t tell my manager and do it with virtual backgrounds.