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Hi there, I have 3.5 YOE working for NHS Finance. I applied to Deloitte Risk Advisory, Public Sector (London, UK) and was successful. Waiting to hear back with package offer but it’s been over 2 weeks - was told they may offer M2 grade, any ideas what this is?
I’m also interviewing for Senior consultant role also at Deloitte. How much would this typically pay?
Torn whether to stay within NHS as I will be getting an internal promotion or move to Deloitte.
What’s the WLB like? Good job security?
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Managing 4 analysts is something id expect any SC to be able to do. Id expect a manager to manage multiple workstreams, and only 4 people would be a really small team for most managers. Sounds like you're caught on title instead of looking at R&R.
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Role and responsibilities.
Don't fall for any of it. The Consulting companies do a lot of leveling. I got tired of the game and went for the money instead. I may likely tire of my current job but they are paying me significantly more to do less. I took a lateral move into a new industry and to grow an in demand skill set. Although i love my team, once I achieve a couple of certs I will likely level up elsewhere. It's a game, focus on YOU your brand and expertise and where you want to go. If they are playing games now, they will continue.
OP the only benefit you have is more time to grow your network and earn favor by doing other's work that they can take credit for. They hire folk with even less experience than you as SMs off the street. I would not come into consulting going backwards...again. You will be working with folk 4 years out of college who are SCs trying to prove your ability to be a manager....which you already are. What sense does that make?
Don’t do it. Negotiate that your role doesn’t drop. Short time from SC to M is not that realistic as a new hire. It’s a recruiting strategy but not good for you (personally experienced this!)
OP, definitely not. Do it before you accept the offer. You need to negotiate to come in at the level you want. Don’t let recruitment sell you something that is not the actual practice. After you join, they will tell you it’s not possible for new hire to make M in 3-6months, but we will put you up for next year… bla bla bla. What recruitment promise you about promotion is not the deal. They don’t have a say after you’ve joined. Get yourself a contract on the right level! A good start is everything. Good luck
I fell for this same recruiter line a few years ago. Took almost two years to get to M and then everyone told me I was lucky because even that is early. It isn’t just the title it is the work you do. I was five to ten years past the work an SC would do so I was bored and frustrated. I ended up leaving shortly after promotion as I already felt I’d wasted too much time. Went to another firm at much higher (and appropriate for my experience) level and so much happier.
I guess I’m still intrigued as to why they go these lengths? Like why would they consider me for Manager to eventually “lowball” a SC offer ? Why not set me for SC from the get go ?
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No push back and negotiate?
I wanted SM as per my experience but recruiter said the same to me. I accepted at M but my projects have been useless. So no chances of getting promoted to SM. Honestly I am depressed as I have been in projects that degraded my skill set. So please do your negations better. I joined because of really nice sign on bonus or TC comparable to tech firms
What’s was the range of your sign on bonus !
Don't do it. Negotiate the manager position or move on.
You won't get promoted in 6 months. Remember its the job of the recruiter to recruit you. They say anything to make you sign.
The money will make more sense as a manager.
No one has ever got promoted in 3-6 months . That’s BS of highest order! I would negotiate a base of 190k if I would even remotely consider levelling down to SC
It’s hard coming in as a M with no network as an experienced hire. Even at SAP, managers come in at the SC level
I've interviewed some people for M roles and they just don't have the right experience so I've offered SC instead. People don't often take the lower offers, but it's not a negotiation tactic from me, it's matching the person's experience to the role.
@SM1, you’re correct so then 7 years to make Mgr.
Just tell them I don't care about the title. I earn this much and I would only move if I get this much! Try to hit above salary band that will be suitable for a SM.
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C1, If OP is being offered an SC role, how on earth do you think they're going to be able to command 40% more than an SM? I don't think we are paying SCs or even Ms 280-300+ ;)
Whatever the recruiter says is not a guarantee unless you see it on your contract. So don’t just go by what the recruiter says. You won’t even meet them after you join the firm and it’s a different world than what your recruiter painted.
Spot on, if it's not in the contract it doesn't matter what recruiter told you and as myself and others said there's no way you'll get promoted within 6mo to a year maybe are a year of your a rock star but generally a SC requires 2 year in roll before being eligible for promotion considerations to M.
Don’t fall for lollipops! It would be very difficult for you to negotiate your promotion to the level where you want to be, unless you are a superstar.
Don’t do it! You’d be happier at your current role.
Don’t do it. I interviewed for a M position and was recently extended an offer for a M position.
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Deloitte Consulting.
Usually offer is one level below your ask. I was in similar situation. Asked for SM but got M. In my project, SM reports to me and another M is an under performer. PPMD acknowledges it but is not willing to take an extra step to promote me. Please enter at the title you want else you will waste half of your energy regretting
I applied and was offered a M position: was I the exception and not the norm?