If the salary or rate isn’t, in fact, listed in the job posting, should it not be discussed in the first call? My mind is blown by the amount of agencies and recruiters being so cagey about sharing a number early on.

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Yes! I think the range should be shared based on an initial discussion. It’s a huge waste of time. They have a range but somehow now are not sharing until you do.

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I honestly think salaries should always be listed in the job advert. If it's "depending on experience", they should put the range. They know what their budget is.

I've recently seen quite a few job listings that require you to submit your CV, a cover letter, your portfolio, answer several questions and THEN state what your salary expectation is (on the basis that they simply won't call you if it's out of their budget). SO time wasting for the candidate when they could just SAY what their budget is.

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Ignore their cagey and press on.
"I need the ballpark please because I don't want to waste your time, the HMs time, or mine. Thanks."

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