Is it a redline, or blackline? I know what Google says but my practice experience says otherwise.

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For all who wonder about the etymology of blackline: apparently the original software was black and white. The only thing it did was make a black line in the left margin where changes had been made. Hence, “black line”. I heard this from a Senior Counsel who loves to reminisce.

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When talking with clients I call it a highlighted copy. As a soon-to-be retired Boomer, I call it a blacklined copy when talking to other lawyers. There were no color printers when I first started in the 70s. 😉

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People say both. I say redline because I’m young and hip.

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Both. Blackline is reserved for debt financing people; for some reason, that’s their preferred lexicon. Redline for everyone else.

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Now that you mention it, banks attorneys usually use blackline

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It’s “blackline“ in Canada, but when dealing with U.S. counter parties, I use “redline”

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Came here to say this

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Agree with you all. A couple of the boomers in my office say blackline so I had to put this to rest.

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I’ve been in law firms since 2003, and have only ever heard redline. Blackline sounds like code for “clean copy”, I’d stay clear of that word.

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Redline - and I’ve been in law since ‘86

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What is a black line?

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Redline 💯

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Redline. Never even heard some say blueline

Blackline *

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Redline:))

Redline for the millenials. Black line for the Gen X’ers and above. I don’t know why. At some point in time did people cross out and underline sections by hand in pencil and create a “black line” copy? (If so why not use red pen?)

Maybe, but I clerked first multiple judges and never heard it

Redline

Redline

Redline

It’s either, for the (obvious?) reasons that previous software used to produce changes in BW and put a vertical black line (see what they did there?) in the margin next to the change - so exactly like Word does in track now. I use them pretty interchangeably (redline dominates though); have never had an issue with anyone wondering what “attached are both the clean and blackline versions” could mean.

@C1 It doesn’t have to be pretty to be valid.

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I know that Cravath had a proofing dept where people with red wax pencils did it by hand back in the day. When I worked there ~18 years ago, there were only a handful of proofers left, and we had redlining software by then. I'm a young Gen Xer (tail end) and I say redline.

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