Is it okay to public discriminate against women because of your religion? I was just denied the opportunity to play a friendly soccer game because most of the men who are playing are Muslim from abroad and they do not want to play with women. Then they proceeded to allow other men to join. Good job Penn Muslim guys, I guess?

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If it’s a friendly game they can admit or deny whoever they want. I understand how that can be hurtful but it happens all the time. I played basketball my whole life and was very good but guys never wanted to let the chick play in the pick up game. 🤷🏾‍♀️

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Right is relative in this case. There are no sanctioned rules as it’s not a league. I do think that line of thinking is wrong and hurtful to exclude people for whatever reason, but again if they are just buds getting together to play they can add or not add whoever they want.

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I don't want to be mean, and am certainly not misogynistic, but just because a man tells a woman "No" doesn't count as "discrimination" -- or that he's gay or some such. Sometimes "No" just means "No." In the personal life arena here in the United States, we have a constitutional right to associate with whomever we want to. We also enjoy a freedom of religion, and your demanding to play with the Muslim men would be violating both their freedom of association and freedom of religion. Now, if you had a unit BBQ and only offered pork ribs for the guests, that would certainly be inconsiderate of your Muslim and Jewish co-workers, but also wouldn't be considered "discrimination."

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Yeah, if you play regularly, don’t back down on not playing. Make it an issue if they want to make it an issue, and ask the people you regularly play with to back you up. If they can’t, make sure they know they’re also an issue

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I think outside of work, yes it's technically "okay." If it's not a co-ed team already, it makes sense to me that they might want to keep it that way. I think there's a reason that sports are still generally divided across biological sex lines. it's not personal or discrimination, it's literally just to protect everyone.

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If this is not work-related, yes, seems like they can choose who to play with for any reason they want, yes. Freedom of association.... Has nothing to do with their ethnic backgrounds, anyone of any religion or no religion can freely do so.

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But this field is open for community recreation and these Muslim men have not paid to reserve the field. In my opinion, if they want to join open recreational games, they should be open to playing with anyone, and not try to exclude anyone else. Or they need to pay to reserve a facility just for them.

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This post has many assumptions. Did you ask these men the reason behind their denial?

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Yes, it is legal for them to deny you access to their pick-up soccer game with their ball. Is it a bummer for you? Sure. But you have no legal recourse whatsoever

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Op seems annoying. A1 is just saying they are not legally obligated to play with you. A1 didn’t even give his opinion on whether it was right or not just answered your question.

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Aren’t major sports divided by gender as well? Like women’s basketball, women’s soccer, etc? Doesn’t seem like it’s unheard of to want to play soccer with only your gender

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Lots of rec leagues are mixed gender. This doesn't sound even remote official so not really comparable anyway if it's just a pickup game. Unfortunately like any playground, people don't have to be inclusive/play with everyone though it does suck. I remember working with some Muslim men who wouldn't shale hands with me when Introduced for religious reasons, so I'm not too surprised that this happened to you OP. Id try not to take it too personally and move on

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No. Let's just say it, no. On a public field, a pick-up game is open to all. If someone rents the field, they can control participation.

I would say for lacrosse, then you need a helmet if it's co-ed. Pickup hockey, equipment is required. Soccer, softball, basketball? Sorry, public means open to all.

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So let me get this right, you are saying disrespect women is part of the Muslim faith and all practicing members follow that? I beg to differ. You should think hard and be really ashamed of yourself, if this is truly what you believe.

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