Is it true that companies sometimes post positions they've already filled internally or through a referral? I've heard this happens, but the logic doesn't add up to me. Why would an employer spend money posting a job and dealing with hundreds of applicants if a decision had already been made? Do you think it's still worth applying to recent listings anyway?

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I don't know about all companies, but my husband works for a large insurance company. They do not do direct promotions there (which has always seemed so strange to me, but it's how they do it.) If the next position becomes available, you have to submit a resume, apply, interview, and be selected for it. Each position is also posted externally. So even if they know FOR SURE who they want to be 'promoted' into the position, they will still post it internally and externally, let all the people apply/submit resumes/waste time interviewing, just to ultimately give it to the person who, in many cases, has already been functionally filling the job. Its wild.

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My company is very similar. Very few people that I have seen get promoted without first having to apply for the role, when it comes open. Then go through the interview process, if you get selected for the interview.

I have made it known to my manager that I want to move on from my current role.

Yes, it is entirely true that companies frequently post positions that have already been filled internally, by a referral, or for which they have a specific candidate in mind. While it seems counterintuitive—and a waste of resources—to review hundreds of applicants for a "filled" job, there are several strategic and bureaucratic reasons for this behavior.

The strategic parts in short:
1. Data mining (same primary reason for loads of ghost job postings)
2. CYA - ensuring they technically comply with hiring regulations despite already deciding who is being hired.

In some states it is the law, that all job openings have to be posted, publicly, for fairness, "equal opportunity" to apply.
So, Companies do this and waste everyone's time to meet the requirement knowing full well they aren't hiring anyone new off the street for the position. It's just a work around. They might have to fill the vacancy of the person getting promoted though. So maybe people have a chance at that.

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