Hi all,
Do firms match offers from other Big 4s for campus hires? I’ve received a campus offer from both KPMG and EY. I’m more interested in the EY offer, but they are paying 3k less than KPMG.
Would it be a bad move to let them know about the other offer and try negotiating? I feel it wont make a difference in the long run, but at the same time I don’t want to leave any money on the table if possible.
Thanks!
KPMG EY PwC Deloitte
Generally speaking no. They all pay roughly the same.
Also — actual advice — go with the firm where you liked the seniors and associates you met with the most.
That’s going to define your experience.
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Op yes they’ll most likely match it. All B4 want their offers to be the same as other B4. They don’t want candidates choosing a different B4 for a few thousand more. My sibling received a KPMG winter internship and an EY summer internship- EY offered a few thousand more. I think like 2-4 weeks later KPMG gave my sibling a new offer, matching EY’s offer dollar for dollar. Sibling didn’t ask for a match- I assume KPMG found out EY was offering more for their internships
They will change the number on their own accord if it is not market competitive, yes.
The most often response when campus hires ask the B4 to match another B4 is “no”, though.
Lmao. If you try to negotiate an entry offer, they’ll point to the door
Well played DT2! Hope you got another fatty raise on your move to DT
3k after tax is literally nothing per check lol Just go with EY
Agreed. Give me $30 a week, it's nothing
Don’t listen to the people saying you can’t, they’re just salty that they didn’t negotiate themselves lol You can negotiate if they can match the salary, and if they REALLY want you, you can ask for an extra sign on bonus.
It really doesn’t hurt to ask, worst thing they say is no. I’ve never heard of someone having an EY offer pulled for a 3K negotiation
Don’t negotiate over 3k. You’ll be laughed at if you do especially as a campus hire. If you like EY more, just go with them.
Go with EY if you like it more. Trust me it will eventually even out. I went from 65k to 123k in 3 years with EY.
The split doesn’t really matter as you are still gonna either be at a big 4 post merger or in NewCo where the career progression will get accelerated and you’ll get access to stock options and whatnot.
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They’ll get career acceleration at AssureCo too ;)
Definitely negotiate don’t leave money on the table. Attach the competing offer letter in an email and then ask if they can match or beat the offer from the other firm. I’ve negotiated at big 4 without competing offer and got a huge salary bump just by negotiating
I’ve sent an email to the EY recruiter asking if they could match KPMG. She told me that she would submit the request for a comp adjustment. Will keep this updated in case anyone is interested in the result.
Is it the money or the company? Don’t waste time over 3k
The comments are tripping, yes let EY know and they will match without a doubt. Just ensure when you reach back out you phrase it in a way where it doesn’t seem like it’s an ultimatum. I’ve had multiple people in my starting class receive offers from multiple Big 4’s and at the very least they always matched. Keep in mind all the comments saying not to do it have KPMG as their identifier 😂
As your making your decision you may share that data point with ey. They like to know. If there something that is driving the difference.
Sometimes the travel expectations are different.
Have worked in both. EY was better for Tax Tech. Which division were you hired for? And remember EY is going to split in a year so consider that.
Possible it has less to do with the firms than they are different jobs. Go with the job you want to do.
It’s 3k, I wouldn’t sweat it. I would take the EY offer as is. Not worth a small 3k to lose a opportunity you want. Plus will probably get that and more if you do well in your first year
You can try to negotiate but chances are they have set salaries for entry level roles. I’m in talent acquisition and I’d highly recommend letting EY know how much your offer from KPMG is.
$3k per year is nothing! And I would honestly consider the offers equal
$3k is not enough to entice me to work with people I don’t like or do a job I don’t want to do. But it is not nothing. It is likely 5% of a new associate salary.
Negotiate, always, all the time.
P.S. they will definitely match the 3k, they paid much more to find you
You realize that all A1s as a matter of policy start at the exact same salary in most offices for EEO/DEI reasons?
Has nothing to do with how much the spent to recruit. B4 would much rather give everyone a $3k raise as an A1 if the market dictated it than give one person a $3k raise because of negotiations.
Go to EY. Pay will all equalize over time. EY is a much better firm than KPMG.