Is there ever a time to accept a counter from your firm when you are leaving and choose to stay instead? For context I really like my firm. Leaving was a purely a financial decision. I don't think I'm underpaid at my current firm, I'm paid in alignment with the rest of my class, which is pretty close to my city's market rates. I just was being poached by a firm with very deep pockets for having a niche speciality. I didn't try and get them to counter either (and hadn't asked for a raise.)

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People usually say never accept your firm's counter but I disagree. I was set to lateral purely for financial reasons. My firm said they understood and they couldn't pay as much as my offer, but they gave me a counter that made it worth it to stay. They've treated me well and I'm up for partner this year. I'm glad I stayed.

What made it work is that I was honest and candid, they were too, and I truly like this firm and the people here.

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I agree. If you like the firm and they like you well enough to make an offer in excess of market, you should jump on it.

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I think there is a world in which you could accept a counter. If you like it there and it really is about the money then stay. They would't make a counter offer if they didn't really want to keep you.

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