I've been an engineer at Facebook for six years and am really contemplating resigning or trying to organize my fellow employees for us to make obviously needed changes specifically around disinformation.

What would you do? I don’t care if I get fired.

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If there are thousands of engineers still willing (and presumably able) to fill your job, will organizing a walkout do anything other than make the company hire more carefully and amend the contract to discourage such behavior?

To me, you're better poised to help from the inside, and how you can best effect change depends on the nature of the problem. Is there financial incentive for the company to act the way it is? Are there technical hurdles? Is it just bad culture or "corporate inertia"?

I would say think critically about how best to focus your anger and what an actionable solution would be. As an engineer, you're likely best poised to help overcoming technical hurdles, but you may need to reach out across the company if the problem spans other parts of the business, e.g. find someone in sales/marketing to build a case about why staying the course would be financially detrimental in the long run.

Use this as an opportunity for personal and professional growth: be a leader within your company and push actionable ideas upwards. Your willingness to lose your employment is still an asset, because you can fearlessly present your proposals to all levels of management, and who knows, you may find more people care than you realize.

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This.

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I would try to speak up first and see if people are willing to unite with you. If not then leave.

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You have so much more power to affect change from the inside. Don’t waste your privilege.

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I would either resign or do something within the organization to effectuate change. By doing nothing, you are complicit in the problems they are creating in society.

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Tell us more. Should FB be the arbiter of truth? Any suggestions?

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I get that people want to do something, but I don't understand the outrage at Mark Zuckerberg. You can't cherry pick individual posts you don't like, otherwise you will set precedents that you will regret. Whatever you do needs to be methodical and principled. It's hard.

Do you only flag or outright remove/censor?
If you remove, are you not obfuscating the fact that the poster was lying or saying something racist?
What is your method of detection? Can you scale it across all users, or does it have manual components?
If it doesn't scale, how do you decide which content needs a review?
How do you handle being an arbiter of truth?
What constitutes hateful speech that needs to be flagged?

I'm not saying these issues are necessarily insurmountable, but it does mean you cant just place all blame on Zuck. You need to take on responsibility to figure this out too. He is just 1 person deciding not to make a rash decision.

Do you have some concrete ideas to tackle these issues? I'd genuinely love to read a 6-pager doc on how this could be tackled methodically.

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all these contrarians for the sake of being contrarian asking things like should facebook be the arbiter of truth or you can't blame zuc.

let's see:

if you have a good or service and that good or service has incredibly deleterious impact do you just ignore it or address it?

now you're the one who makes decisions regarding the good or service and perhaps you didn't know it was harmful before but you do now. do you just ignore it regardless of it's harmful effects or do you address it and try to make a change?

answer varies based on your personality, beliefs, values etc or lack thereof.

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I'd argue that Trump is the cause of hate, not Facebook. Facebook deleting his post would not magically undo the damage of Trumps words. It would certainly virtue signal. One could strongly argue taking down his posts would actually obfuscate Trumps true hateful intentions.

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