Language/etiquette question: I am a transplant here (spouse’s job).
I am the whitest white person ever & a native English speaker. Lived in Mexico for a year; Spanish is very much my second language but people understand me if they need/want something.

I’ve noticed some people here will start a conversation with me in Spanish, hear me speak, make a face, & begin talking very loudly in English.

I’d love to be able to use my Spanish but it seems like unnecessary conflict. Help me understand!

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If you want to keep learning, keep speaking Spanish. My husband does not speak any Spanish and looks more Latino than me, he is spoken to in Spanish only to say “I don’t speak Spanish” and people changing to English. The loudness is just the Latino trait! My husband says I have a Spanish tone and and English tone, so that may be it. In my opinion, I’m loud in both lol

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Nah! It’s Miami. Everyone is condescending. Sometimes, when I’m with my kids in the ER, I switch to English so they fully understand what is going on. I think living here for a while you gain a little toughness and let shit slide. Honestly, I am originally from Colombia and sometimes don’t like speaking Spanish even if I notice someone is struggling to speak English (or vice versa) just because I know they’re trying and I want them to learn. I may correct them nicely and keep going Bc I was in those shoes once. You will find most people are just lazy and don’t even care to try new languages because they just assume everyone can speak what they speak.

And for your husband, tell him his reply should be “oh, I love pretentious white assholes”. People can shove it!

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If your Spanish has an accent or you don’t speak it fluently, people shift their perception of you. The assumption is you are American. You are no longer familiar with any Hispanic of Latin culture. But the jokes on them, because you were fully immersed in Mexican culture. Mexicans love bonofide Mexicans, which I’m sure you became after living in Mexico for a year. I would continue to speak Spanish, mention your experience in the Mexican culture often and every chance you get. That will help you to gain more acceptance and trust of your other fellow Hispanic and Latino cultures. Miami has many of them, you have your Caribbean folks (Dominican, Puerto Ricans, Cubans) your South Americans (Colombian, Venezuelan, Ecuadorians, Guatemalan, Honduran) , and all those who think themselves Europeans (Argentinian, Chilean) - all Spanish speakers. Learn the difference between the accents too, so you can reference where they may be from. That should help you break the ice and keep you within the circle of trust.

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Okay. I am sorry about the trauma you experienced. In that specific situation, I don't feel like their reaction can be used as the standard just based on the conditions, as far as your need for help and them speaking loudly, etc.

Regarding your accent however, people DO treat others differently when they have an accent. I have found this to be the case among hispanics and non-hispanics, unfortunately. One of my hispanic friends speaks English with an accent. English is her second language. People treated her differently. I have interacted with Indian men who speak English with an accent, I notice subtle differences in the way they are treated. Unfortunately it is your accent (IMO) and I'm sorry!

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Dont care about their judging faces. Speak in the language you want or makes you feel more comfortable. It seems people understands your Spanish, thats all you need! Plus using it its the only way to improve it

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I say it as someone from a spanish speaking country. I appreciate when someone tries to speak my language to engage with me. And I assume they wont be perfect. As I am not when I speak english, I do my best but I might never reach native level. Its just expectations and being considering with each other. Specially with my friends and co workers we appreciate each other when we correct/suggest more “local” expressions in each other languages. Its very emphatic of you trying. And very idiotic of whoever gives you the nasty face not recognizing that

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We complain americans know nothing about outside the US, that they call America as to the US as if other countries were not part of the continent, that they never learn other languages or they dont study anything in their education system about outside the US…

And anyway when one american learns, show interest, etc, we give them a bad face.

90% of my friends in the US are either american or people that immigrated when a child so basically grown and educated as american. And still we are respectful about each other languages, cultures. Its much more interesting being a hectic group. Messy bc we might not share eating times for example but we flex to accommodate each other and embrace us

If people is not respectful with you when you are trying to be respectful with them, its their issue. Not yours

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🙄 oh yea there totally no white people who speak Spanish as a first language, it’s giving self loathing, it’s giving idk basic history.

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