Midlevel Biglaw associate in DC (Cravath comp, top law school, V20 firm) who just got an offer for a generalist in-house role. The company is a large well-known multinational, but the role is with a new branch of the company for which there’s no salary information online. What’s a reasonable salary/salary range to expect? What about reasonable benefits/vacation/etc.? I have no reference point so any information would be helpful, including any tips for negotiating. Thank you in advance.

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Look at goinhiuse.com, barker gilmore and lawyer whisperer blog fir good tips. Make sure you understand bonus and equity. Inquire if there is a signing bonus (I had no idea that was an in house thing, but it is!)

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I'd say $150-160, plus 15-20% in bonus/equity. Hard to say, in some ways, because the company may think of itself as a big girl company or a startup, and comp will vary accordingly. I'll also echo A1, if there is a stock/options component, make sure you understand what that actually means in terms of value.

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Echoing SC1 - I’m a 3rd year Corporate Counsel and make just a shade over 100k with minimal bonuses in a mid market, mid size software company, PE owned. I’ve heard of other folks in my area and experience making more like $150k, but I’ve also heard of others making about $80k. Doesn’t seem to be a real reliable standard.

What level is the role? Do you know the company’s hierarchy for their law dept and where this title lands?

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Role is simply Counsel. It’s a new legal dept, so thus far there’s only a GC. They’re bringing in two Counsels - job description asked for a minimum of five years’ experience.

Following... Can you share how you got in house offers? Thanks!

I told my primary partner (who I trusted) I was burned out on biglaw (mind you, only after several years of killing it for him and our clients) and was looking for exit options to one of our clients or similar. Happened to be one of our clients was looking and had asked him for ideas and I ended up there several months later.

If you’re a senior associate with strong partner/client relationships, I would recommend being up front with your trusted partners about looking at in-house exit opps so they can help you. It’s to everyone’s benefit to place you at a client where you can refer work back to the firm. Expect this to take several months, maybe years.

But of course this is risky b/c if this doesn’t work out, you’re going to have a hard time convincing the firm you’re still 100% committed to the firm and partner-track there. Don’t let your work slip in the meantime and lose your partners’ confidence.

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