Pre-COVID you were promised a raise to come in June to accompany the smaller raise and promotion you got in January. Now, your company is like every other company - combating layoffs and going through raise and hiring freezes; which makes the opportunity for that raise look pretty impossible. The thing is, the job you’re doing is at least two levels above what your promotion brought you to and you feel like you’re doing twice the work for half the pay. What do you do?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Exact same situation for me, except I'm waiting for a promotion. Keep the conversation going with your manager but do your best to be understanding. The priority for many companies right now is to save jobs, and that might mean no raises or promotions until Q3 or Q4. If that's unacceptable to you, or the workload is affecting your mental health, apply elsewhere. You might be surprised with what you can find. Good luck!

like

Thank you!

It’s tough, because similar things have happened to me in the past but being on the leadership side now I know there’s literally nothing I can do in this case. There’s no money right now. Asking your boss for money right now shows a limited understanding of the circumstances and puts them in an awkward position.

I don’t mean to sound super tough love but the people who shine during times like this are the ones who normally come out better on the other side. So you either suck it up and when things are better be prepared to make your case for more or come to your boss with solutions they make sense in the current climate to make things better. Can you bring on an intern, for example?

like

They didn’t even coninue our intern program this year so think that’s a long shot, but thank you for the wise words. I know in my heart what you’ve said above, I was just wrestling with feeling like a chump for working way above my pay grade with my desire to be a team player and do my part to see our agency through what’s going on - even if that means taking a hit in the short term. It’s not a great feeling but sometimes it is what it is. Always appreciate some tough love.

like

In the same position they’ve owed me a raise for a while now and I was supposed to get it this summer before they announced no raises or promotions for the rest of the year. I told my boss I understood and didn’t make a big deal about it. But as soon as hiring starts up again I’m out of there to get the money I deserve and if they can offer me something to keep me then great and if not then it’s just business.

likesmart

I'm every bit the proponent of advocating for yourself, but timing does matter and for people in our industry the odds of improving both your short-term and long-term outcomes by pushing your employer at this exact moment in time feels as close to zero as it will ever be.

like

I’m in the exact same situation. It’s hard not to feel frustrated - and a little annoyed with myself for not just leaving earlier.

like

I guess I’m lucky in that way. My boss is an SVP and he’s very understanding about how I feel and the situation - there’s just nothing to be done, there is no money. Personally I’m not optimistic there will be raises and promotions until June 2021. I’ll go crazy waiting that long, so currently looking, but it’s a bad time for that.

Two levels higher? So you believe you’re operating at a Group Strategy Director level?

When you operate across multiple accounts with no oversight whatsoever, is that what you would call it? For context, there were people above me that were previously on these accounts but as they were either let go or quit, no one has moved over to replace them. They know I can do the work, so they let me - but now I feel I’m being taken advantage of b/c the agency continues to charge for those roles and my compensation has barely been impacted.

Related Posts

Any fish aware of Olive AI? Got approached by a recruiter for a Solution Architect role. They seem young, but interesting and promising. Not sure if their comp will be robust or not. Curious to see what others know/think!

like

Is 14k AED a good salary to move to UAE?

like

PwC To Pwc fins, what bonus would a manager in cloud consulting expect / how does this offer stack up to what you'd expect?

Base offered is 160 with a 10k signing bonus, so not sure what I should expect TC wise or how negotiable that is. 6YOE in technology consulting.

like

Hi Fishes! I am searching for an opportunity in Financial Planning and Analysis role (Finance) with 7.7 years of experience. Any leads ? Appreciations in advance !!

like

Guys looking for a change as a Senior Business Analyst or Entry level Data Scientist role please help out with relevant referrals
YOE : 3 years (relevant)
Tech stack : Advanced Sql, Python (functional), metabase, gsheet, colab, git(basics), big data(basics)

like

Is it true that IBM won't give salary during notice period ?IBM

like

Hi fishes,
Please let me know my gross and in-hand salary.

Post Photo
like

Anyone know the TC ranges for the Policy and Government Relations teams at FAANG? I usually see Manager roles but haven’t seen much in terms of comp. Think 10-12 years of consulting/tech policy/Hill staffer experience in a HCOL area. I know this question is pretty broad.

like

Hello everyone, I need advise on getting into a pharmaceutical company like Novartis. I have applied to many position but have gotten denied. I know with my experience, Dedication, hard work, and quick to learn new systems I would be a great fit for the company.

like

Anyone in this bowl work for a REIT? Curious about WLB/comp/etc. Thanks!

like

I’m jealous of my husband’s work situation. He is in a non tech role at FAANG and makes the same as me ~$200k but works about 20-40 hours a week and then spends the rest of the time napping, & watching tv. He gets his work done quickly, attends meetings and has really great relationships to where people think he’s a superstar. To be fair, when things hit crunch time, he’s working hard and late hours, but it’s definitely a more balanced life. Are all faang companies work/life balance like this?

like

What can I expect as a total package for a solution architect role in AWS company?

like

Wells Fargo referral: Can someone working at WF please refer my profile? I can share the job ID. Please help!

Post Photo
like

Salary for Sr Contracting Admins or Senior Proposal Managers @tidal basin

like

Hello 🐠s Just wondering if anyone from Strategy& UK would be willing to provide a referral? Happy to discuss over DM if preferred PwC Strategy&

like

Hi fishes,

What can be the expected salary for a 7yoe SAP technical consultant?

I have offers from

1.Elsevier

Technology & Role: Data science - NLP (specialization)

CTC: 12.5 Fixed + 1.5 var

will be working directly with their R & D team based in Amsterdam, their Tech Team seems strong. Manager, Seniors & everyone is from amsterdam & has Phd / papers published.

location: Bangalore/WFH

2.Tredence

Technology: Data Science Consultant (general Analytical)

18 Fixed + 1.5 var

service based firm, mostly will put on project based on their requirement.

which one is good?

like

What do hiring partners (or HR in in-house) generally think about a lateral that are in the middle of a part-time MS degree program (STEM MS program)?

like

What should expected compensation be for Gartner Consulting MBA/Masters 2023
Summer Associate Program? They ask for you to list it in your app… could not find much historical info for them. Just MBB

like

More Posts

Anyone have tips for someone interviewing for a Private Equity BD role?

like

An EY delivery center recruiter passed my resume on to a partner in strategy at a diff location last week because they’re interested in me but my salary req was out of range (I didn’t realize it was a delivery center role when I applied). Haven’t heard anything more yet. How long should I wait before following up again (sent a thank you note the day I chatted with the recruiter).

like

So I guess looting is okay now since merchandise is replaceable?

Post Photo
like

Which group, sponsor finance or subscription finance, have a better chance in moving to Investment banking roles later on. Those groups are in corporate banking sector at my bank, but I know those two groups are housed under many investment banks as well.

like
like
like

Currently a 2nd year Real Estate Associate, want to leave big law prior to 4th year. Too early?

like

Had a weird conversation with IBM HR about counter offer. Despite explaining that it won't be ethical to share the other company's name. She says disclosing it's name is mandatory??? IBM

like

Lets have a poll. Let's see what our colleagues are going through now 😅

Post Photo
helpfulfunnysmartupliftinglike

Probably the wrong bowl, but my high school senior is going off the rails. Besides a therapist, any suggestions?

like

How do you make time for reading in your schedule? Is it something you do in the early morning? On breaks? Before sleep? I can never seem to fit it in

like

which is better company Coforge or Atos..I have offer from both..but not able to make my mind which one to join...coforge is giving me higher package

like

What’s the interview process like for commercial account executives at salesforce? I have an interview with a recruiter coming up.

like

There’s a screenshot of my face mid video-call with my boss on his desktop. It felt weird. I know they have a mac and screenshotting needs 3 simultaneous buttons. Plus if it was me presenting something that would’ve been fine but its just me talking…not drawing any conclusions but feeling weird…like????

likefunny

What is the expected big4 compensation for internal audit risk advisory supervisor in San Francisco with 7 years experience?

There's a very real possibility that I will be accepting a new job offer at a new company at the end of the week. The very idea of having that conversation with my current boss keeps me awake at night with anxiety. There's 9 years of gaslighting, elements of Stockholm Syndrome, broken trust behind that anxiety and having trouble getting over myself. I'd appreciate any advice into how to mentally prepare for that conversation ... Thanks in advance!

like

Have an offer from HCL, Synechron and Deutsche Bank. All offered me 19 lpa fixed. So with respective WLB and Job Security for which company should I join?

Pls suggest guys

like

Love my leftover pizza in the mornings

Post Photo
like

Additional Posts in Advertising

Is anyone at a job they really, truly enjoy that also pays competitively (and has good benefits)? In my experience, I haven’t found anything that satisfies both. Either I love the job and I’m grossly underpaid or the job is totally mediocre but the money is great. Is it really possible to have it all or do I need to lower my standards? Maybe it’s just the way this industry is?

like

I could care less about being agency of the year or making some stupid list... how about giving us more perks in the agency or better yet bonuses...

like

What is a universal truth we can all agree on?

like

What do you do when a creative coworker constantly shows up late to your meetings?

like

Fishbowl users give a lot of WK requited love or show their desire to work at WK. Are there other agencies that do similar or better work than WK? Do you think it’s possible? Why the WK bias?

like

Are the timesheets in the room with us right now?

likefunny

How is Portland job market? Nike shrunk, RGA layoffs, ... bust?

like

R/GA layoff updates: 20 cut in Portland today, bringing stateside count close to 100 on the year. No official statement from Bob.

like

So I was laid off. Is it okay to talk about it at my next job interview? Feels like everyone knows anyway.

like

Best/worst reason you’ve been fired?

like

Back in NYC. It's nice to be back in my very own tiny overpriced glorified storage unit 😁

like

Anyone had drinks with a future employer prior to offer?

like