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Makes sense to me. Being in the U.S. is a privilege.
You think the US is the powerhouse it was?! Nope. Do some research, friend.
Companies that truly cannot find qualified, highly skilled labor in the US will gladly pay for it. The rest will be incentivized to hire locally and stop abusing the system. To put the number into perspective, $100,000 is (much) less than an entry-level signing bonus in big tech. It’s also less than what elite firms pay for a clerkship bonus.
Companies like public / teaching hospitals? Cool, you going to pay more in taxes to cover that? Thanks!
Except it has to be congress that has the authority to do this. Drump is not authorized under INA to do this. MAGA browbeating aside. This is a forum of lawyers. This will get struck down.
Economic suicide.
This!!!
Anyone mad about this fee either has terminal TDS or is a tech billionaire bootlicker.
I am hearing u-turn already? TACO. T always caves over? This is once again a national disaster. How do MAGA crowd even not see that this guy is making a fool out of you? Lawyer too at that.
Last time this happened, a lot of the AI work was shifted to Vancouver Canada by Microsoft, meta, Google and others. Canada was where AI survived the previous AI winter. Why will any company that has to spend $300000 every year not move their workers to Canada? This happened during Covid when visas became difficult to come by from US.
Second, these companies have products that are global. All of these companies will move to a different country for these workers. They already have offices there.
Third those most affected are smaller companies, ngos and the like. These companies don’t have the money to pay the $300000. They cannot hire or pay the fee. They are not going to hire local either. They are even more constrained on funds. Will have to rely on remote workers. Also if you work for the NGO, you are not making top dollar. If you work for a university, if they could hire an American they would have. Losing that post-doc professor or researcher or PhD is going to be a net loss.
Law is the exception to a limited extent. We need lawyers in the US ( in theory). But even there a lot of the patent work is outsourced. Some paralegal services are too. Every big company has an offshore team doing some of this. GE did that 20 years ago. SAP did that and so on.
Where you can affect on the margins you are hurting yourself. Encouraging offshoring. Losing talent where it’s high skill like PhD, AI etc. If I am a high skill AI, I want to be in Canada now. I don’t want to be raided like in the case of Hyundai plant. Or suddenly told that I can’t go back to my job my family with kids in school in US. If you do that, you will lose the most talented folks. If you do that to legal immigrants you show that you are xenophobic. Korea has cancelled the plant in Georgia. How does this attract talent? Talent is an ecosystem of people not one person… plus if you treat someone with so much hubris and xenophobia people will not want to be in US.
As lawyers we need the ability to see things for what they are. This is called political risk. This is why you don’t invest in or did not want to invest in Africa. You have cheap labor, cheap resources but a tinpot dictator who can change things overnight. No one will invest in such a situation. Money will move to where there is certainty. It’s day one of international transactions.
That is the reality. You are welcome to think it’s going to help locals. It’s just economic suicide just like tariffs.
@p1 Receipts for the person whom you defend. https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/stephen-millers-affinity-white-nationalism-revealed-leaked-emails/
Let me be crystal clear. This is xenophobia. Someone with these opinions has no business setting policy. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you did not know how disgusting and disturbing that thought process behind this policy is.
FRE 406. Actions consistent with prior actions are admissible.
Good for Americans and anyone else in the system already with top dollar skillz.
It’s a supply and demand question - if people pay, why not…..
Definitely not!
I’m an H-1B lawyer working at a boutique firm. There is no realistic chance my employer could have afforded the proposed fee increase. Yet I bring language skills, a unique background, and new business opportunities through my international connections. Like many others, I invested heavily—both financially and personally—for the chance to work in the U.S., including pursuing my studies here.
The reality is that law firms, especially smaller ones, will not pay these fees for foreign lawyers. This policy just strips away the American dream from motivated, highly qualified professionals who already contribute significantly to the U.S. economy.
Meanwhile, programs such as the au pair visa or the green card lottery (and many more), still exist, rewarding individuals who arguably bring much less to the table. The result is a system that punishes skilled, driven individuals. And I'm not even talking about the tech industry...
Law is so well protected that talk of a foreign threat is laughable. You are right none of the small firms will pay the fee. Heck doctors in rural America are going to get kicked out and they are the only doctors for miles. But with the u turn, if you are already on H1b you are not required to pay the $100k. You are safe. It’s already been changed.
The other reason for the u-turn is the response from India. Their response was, good H1b was a net brain drain that benefited US. We are concerned for those currently in the US because they can’t travel to meet sick parents, dead parents and the like. The top visa users are American companies which pay over market like Google, Amazon, Meta, JP Morgan and the like. TATA which owns TCS (which also uses H1b) has talked to Boeing about cancelling a 46 billion Boeing (300 planes) order. Apparently they are losing on ticket sales after the Boeing planes crashed on substandard parts.
India has been playing nice with all the tech firms encouraging them to continue investing in jobs and services from India. No digital tax. Plus no retaliation to US actions. Never interrupt your competition when they are busy hurting themselves.
The losses to US companies is anticipated to be 14 billion dollars in the first year. This will be rolled back for anyone with the senators in their pockets. NGOs, hospitals, Universities and small business are the ones going to pay the price moving forward. Jared Kushner will talk the president down. We saw this in Trump 1.0 when Jared toned down most of the Miller proposals. This time Jared only comes in after the fact, and when his backers are going to lose money. The feedback loop is a little more laggy.
This is another self-inflicted crisis.
Time and tide wait for no man
All of you need to get your September time in!!!!!!
Send me more work. I pinky swear I will get off fish bowl.
I don’t think it will change anything, since a lot of firms have replaced positions by using actual contractors remotely and outside of the US. As long as you are physically in the United States, no matter you are H1B or local, we think you are too expensive from an employer’s perspective.
Offshore work
GREAT idea! It will raise revenue for the US and force companies to recruit at American universities taher that getting cheaper foreign skilled labor
What about people who waited and invested their life for yeara in usa left their houses in their own country.
That means that they don,'t need skilled labour. That is not less than a ban. Trump is a trumph.