Who has felt that consulting firms bully consultants due to their visa requirements? Specially H1s

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what's state street doing in the bowl? while SS is a fine establishment, technically you are the client for someone on this app!

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I've seen it done at pwc. I've known of projects where visa holders didn't say a peep about a partner making them work 65+ hour weeks on a client and not charge that time. Coincidentally those teams were made up of people who needed the firm to renew their visas. Makes your skin crawl

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Bully? Unfortunately H1s don't grow on trees

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I've said this before and I'll say it again - if your firm systematically discriminates against your visa holding coworkers, then say something. That is illegal and not just "something that happens". If you see something, say something.

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Majority of the visa holders are Indians. Indians have a problem with pushing back on managers and want to victimize themselves. Obviously I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but half of the time it's because the boss is "the boss" and so we're just scared of pushing back and just say yes. Consequently management thinks that all Indians like to put in hours and the cycle continues. Source of opinion: I'm an Indian. I get the urge to say yes to everything "because I'm on a visa" but have never seen any retaliation to saying no.

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P3, PwC started my greencard pricess just after a year with the firm and just a few months after my status changed from OPT to H1. And I have never felt that difference in treatment, many times partners and managers are not even aware of who's on a visa and who is not

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Hahaha not many are aware but SS has a small consulting business too and I moved to SS after working with big 4 consulting firms for 8 years

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@PwC2 - exactly. And that makes entrenched staffing models that do not reflect actual work effort bad for everyone.

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PwC does it. They don't start green card process till 5/6th year of H1B

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The elites do not do the system integration work that requires so many h1bs

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Nobody but HR knows if you are on a visa, GC or passport unless you tell them. That being said, the H1B is a bit of a leash but so are working visas in general

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Is it not natural? They have no recourse. The have no job portability. They are basically well dressed not equally paid bonded labor who still smile. **been there lived it survived it

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There is an added pressure on H1bs to keep their job, so it may manifest itself in bending over backwards. I have enough saved to live for 3 years without a job (stay right where you are s&p 500, or may be go up) but I am always worried about being canned

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I wouldn't say they're required for anything except cheap labor.

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Natural born citizen, if I saw this shit at D I'd rat them out in a heartbeat.

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Agreed. Not pushing back because of Visa fears is not a great way to manage your career. As for EY, I've known people in the 3rd year of H1-B getting their green card processes started. I think it depends entirely on the team/practice you're in. I wonder if practices that have too many foreign nationals (such as are technology groups) end up having to pick and choose whom the pursue green cards for...can't say for sure.

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PwC4 is on point. I can validate that has been the case at EY too. Of course, recognizing that different groups may have varied experiences

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People need to realize working long hours does not necessarily equal quality work.

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D3-Disagree. Project leadership and PMO knows as they have to provide LCA info for those on visas.

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Are the elites (bcg, McKinsey) any different ?

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