Why does WPP promote some people really quickly then other people go 2.5 years without a promotion?

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The people getting promotions are probably 1) doing good work and 2) bringing offers from other agencies

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Some people get promoted because of politics.

Doesn’t mean what Copywriter 1 says isn’t true. A lot of people get promoted because of merit. They make great work and they get offers from other agencies on the regular.

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2.5 years is not a long time to go “without a promotion.” Some people just have unrealistic expectations of how quickly they will grow their skills and achieve new levels of performance.

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My performance reviews and manager says I am

Literally every agency does this, and the rationale is either:
1) they’ve identified someone as a “star” and are promoting them for retention & reward reasons. Great people leave faster, so they get promoted faster.
2) they’ve shown up with an offer from a competitor and gotten a promotion / raise by leveraging the company. This has upsides and downsides, if you actually want to stay.
3) someone is fine at their job, nothing special, and angry they haven’t gotten a promotion or raise for showing up every day.

If someone is going 2.5 years without a promotion, there’s a really good chance they’re seen as performing well at their level, but there’s no actual reason to promote them. An actual reason would be: increased responsibilities (to a more senior level), client growth (the client needs a bigger & more senior team, let’s add people under the current ones), really out-performing expectations (let’s reward them for great results) or retention (this person is great and we can’t afford to lose them).

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2.5 years for a promotion is nothing.

2.5 years (and in many cases I know of, longer…) without a pay rise is not unusual and pretty shitty.

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Typically, they

1) Have a good relationship with their manager
2) Hit their goals
3) Are on an account with an open role above them/there is an open role to promote them into on an account with someone they've worked with before, at that person's recommendation
4) Have visibility with leadership in some capacity, whether through an ERG, participation in company events like the Hackathon, or client feedback.

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It’s almost always politics, leveraging an outside offer, or you were lucky enough to get on an account/team where you won the agency some sort of recognition via awards, etc. MAYBE… a good relationship with a manager and an open slot above you on the account(s) you’re working on.

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they need spots filled, they dont care if you've done a good job or not

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I don’t think companies think that way anymore. It’s all about cutting costs and maximizing profits for the people at the top

Only 2.5? Lucky you!

Merit, potential, and retention of those who display culture fit

Some grapes are sour.
Some are sweet.
IYKYK

4 years no promotions, no raises

Unable to get job at other companies.

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