Why when people dress with skimpy summer clothing (revealing) or even when senior members act unprofessional with their feet up on the desk management and HR just turn their heads. Mind boggling.

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Because we work in advertising not banking.
Agency people have always tried to dress differently than their clients. Creatives used to out dress everybody...Armani suits, Rolex watches, etc. Now they tend dress down more than anybody. Some take it too far, but it is the quirks of agency life

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I actually would love it if we got back to wearing jackets, especially because pockets. It used to be that creatives could dress down, and that helped clients think we were somehow different from them. Now we all dress the same, and clients think of us as partners.

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Why? Because it’s not 1953

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Bigger things to think about?

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Feet up on the desk is not something get HR involved in.

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HR protects the company, not the desk.

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Get off my lawn!!!!

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Women have breasts. If you’re turned on, that’s your problem, not hers

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What’s a desk?

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This post is the difference between Baby Boomers and Generation X.

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So it’s just women’s clothing that bothers you then. 🙄

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People should just be a bit more professional and they don’t care. It’s not your home or the beach, it’s work. Would people interview like that and get hired? Doubt it. Would you dress and act that way with clients doubt it. So why on a day to day is it right? That’s what I’m curious about. Office is relaxed and casual but the lines are pushed.

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The rule I’ve always gone by is ‘our turf, our dress code; their turf their dress code.’ Personally I don’t wear shorts to the office, but I don’t really care if anyone else does.

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You need women to be in burkas for you to keep your dick in your pants?

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Who cares what people dress like. Get a hobby

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What’s more troubling is the fact women don’t use better discretion in choosing how they dress. Even when I was in my 20s I knew if you wear it to a bar you probably shouldn’t wear it to work. Especially in this day and time of #MeToo. You man bash because you don’t want to be seen as a sexual object but yet you dress in a suggestive way. Summer is not a good excuse. There’s plenty of appropriate dress attire that does not involve low-cut tops and spaghetti strap

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He's right, you know. The problem isn't really sexualized dress but rather the rudeness of people who think "I can dress however the hell I want." You want to be treated professionally that means showing decorum, tact, and not blithely ignoring the sensibilities of people you work with or whose business you are representing.

I dunno, as a boomer I’m totally in favor of dress to please yourself as long it’s been washed within memory. I think what OP is saying, however, relates more to the visual cues you get when people dress professionally—and I guess there’s a point there. My contrary view: make the ideas tight, and the dress code loose.

PS - was invited to pitch a client a few back who sent a note out: « when you come to our offices in the Chrysler Building, gentlemen are expected to wear jackets and ties, and ladies skirts and professional attire. » Knew then it was NOT gonna be a fit.

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I just got a flashback to a CW I worked with who showed up at a bank client wearing ripped jeans and a t-shirt. They didn’t let him up because they thought he was a courier.

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This whole thread is laughable, the responses even more so. Good lord, have we forgotten that the office is a place of BUSINESS. I’m all for wearing what you want, but within reason. A certain level of decorum should be expected, not because a man could be “turned on” but because it’s PROFESSIONAL.

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Belly shirts and see through dresses. Ok then...I digress

Those are two things I would never complain about. Is this really the biggest problem you have there? Where do you work, and are they hiring?

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I’m an X not a BOOM

No. You’re and X that thinks like a Boom. 😕

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I would also say that it’s not really HR’s job to police stuff like this. I did once have to have a talk with someone who reported to me about what they wore to a client meeting. I wouldn’t have wanted HR to get involved with that.

I wear shorts to work all the time. I've also asked a woman I work with to button up her shirt a bit as her breasts were spilling out. All the silly responses to OP are problematic to say the least; assumed ageism and outright bullying, and for what? Do you really think the office is the place dress in a sexualized manner and still insist on being taken seriously? If your boss showed up in a fishnet shirt and speedos how quickly would you howl #MeToo?

Go back to church or act like a professional and stop judging people for appearance (assuming by ‘revealing’ you’re speaking of a woman - which is horribly misogynistic btw) AND start judging people for the work they produce

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