A partner is making tough for friend to go on a parental leave, saying if client cn manage w/o u for 6 wks...they don’t need u here...aren’t they suppose to help teams with this..what’s going on here

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Leave the project.
Find a new partner
And then call ethics

Why would your friend want to work for this person after their maternity leave

Your friend has to realize that who she chooses to work with reflects her character

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M3, the problem is that this isn’t our culture. We walk the walk on diversity and helping people have lives outside the office and it’s not okay for partners to not walk the walk. Anyone who even hints at creating an environment like this has not been paying attention to our senior partners for the past 10 years and needs to be reminded of our values

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Let HR know. At the end of the day the partner will have to answer for why your friend was rolled off. Unless people get held accountable for the culture they create nothing will change.

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Not the first time I’ve heard / seen this. There is an underlying belief (at least for paternity) that you should not disconnect and be away for the time allotted. The excuses are “out of sight-out of mind”, but the real reasons I’ve heard are - “Does the father really need to be home for four months?!”, “The baby sleeps 75% of the time”, “We made it by fine with 3 weeks”. Not right, but it’s the world we live in.

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Or tell your Director and let that person do it for you

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Depends on context. If there is a prior performance issue, they may let you go. Document, and sue.

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Agree, go on leave, if there's an issue when they get back, like getting fired, document everything lawyer up, sue firm and said partner, reap the $$ you'll win in the lawsuit plus they'll give you the job back and the partner will be fired for cause

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Hold on— the partner is probably meaning the person needs to roll off and find a new project when they come back, not that they’re going to be fired. Depending on your role and project, if you’re gone for 6 weeks you have to be replaced anyway (too long for someone to cover) so when you come back you’ll need to find a new project

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I’m genuinely curious, what exactly is illegal or unethical here? Rolling off somebody for taking leave? I understand the partner may have phrased it wrong and should have been supportive. But was it illegal or unethical?

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EY offers 16 weeks parental leave for dads? That's by far the most generous I have seen!

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Deloitte offers 16 weeks too. Is everyone mad about the prospect of being rolled off or fired? If fired the anger is justified. If rolled off, why does everyone think being rolled off if you’re going to take extended time off is punishment or retaliatory?

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Wow, PwC partners - please take note.

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P9, sucks but why not do the 6 right at crt. Just saying you should hit all of that time if you can and take vacation when kid arrives. If you’re leaving anyway, this’ll get you the full 6

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HR. That behavior needs to be addressed

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The partner is not wrong. We aren’t cheap and clients look to cut costs all the time

Can you find a replacement for when you are gone?

You guys only get 6 weeks?

Ask this in the Partner One bowl. There are a bunch of pwc partners that frequently comment there

Is this hearsay? Maybe your friend misinterpreted? Been pregos three times and can honestly say I took things way differently than I normally bc of hormones.. I’m telling you it does tricks to your head. 😘 said kindly

Yeah, no. Call HR. Partner has their head up their ass. There’s a reason these policies are in place and aren’t up for individual partner interpretation

Tell his wife to delay pregnancy till he can get hired by EY - 16 weeks

@pwc2, supposedly the policy is changing to align with D and EY this spring/summer, culture change will take longer.

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