Anyone have success stories and/or advice on making it to a senior level creative position as a non-white creative?

Seriously considering leaving this business for a more inclusive one.

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Stop telling yourself you’re not successful because they don’t include you. Give it your all. No one can take your growth and skills away from you. Maybe you night have to go from job to job to get that title jump or raise. You have to be 10 times better to succeed, but that’s a great opportunity to be better than everyone else.

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I'm with Huge1. Stop telling other black people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. It completely dismisses all the toxic crap that White people and the PoC who uphold white supremacy do to prevent Black people from advancing. I got my position when I stopped giving an F about white people's opinions and started moving with the arrogance of a mediocre white man.

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Once you've reached a certain level on your own, you need an advocate or sponsor to move your career into the more senior levels. It's no longer about the technical skills but the political and relationship capital you build through clients and internally at your agency. Also, to be honest, you have to jump agencies to move up in this industry and don't be afraid to go freelance to tailor the experiences you want in your career. HTH.

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@renae your comment is spot on. I give young creatives the exact same advice

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Jumping agencies is the best way. Just make sure you're getting the experiences you need to develop yourself and advance before trying to jump.

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Caveat: if you've unsuccessfully tried repeatedly to be developed and get opportunities to leverage for advancement, leave. A great story can get you a new job with the right person. If you can articulate your successes AND your areas needing development and how your new potential boss can help without a heavy assist, you're gucci. Until there is a chief in front of your title, you will need leadership and management, being able to articulate that with business speak will help you get up.

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How long have you been in the business?

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What business is considered inclusive?

Do you have mentors?

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