Anyone here use a money manager? I’m curious if it’s worth the cost. I know most MM don’t outperform the index, but this guy I am meeting with has a track record of beating it.

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Thanks for the input! My gut feeling is to stay away. I’m just going to index it.

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But now he needs to outperform it by his fee %age
+ a %age to make it worth your while
+ a %age to give you confidence that in the poor performing years you won't just pull out

Amazes me how IB folk fall for these guys... Two years of out performance and they flock. Unless it's a closed quant fund, with great performance and decent people with lots of ideas---good luck getting one to take your money---I wouldn't touch it.

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It’s a good point, you have to outperform whatever you are paying them to do well. Kind of makes the odds worse for you in my opinion, so I never did use one. But I’m sure it makes sense for somebody out there. If it don’t make dollars it don’t make sense.

Is his quoted Alpha net or gross of fees?

Also, how long his his track record? Its entirely possible to out perform the market in a strong bull or bear market but over a prolonged period the indexes tend to out perform the vast majority of money managers. You also need to look at what goods appetite for volatility is. High volatility can lead to high returns but the risk is always there for massive losses. If you have a MM that looks for low volatility but still out performs the Market regularly then that's a good MM in my opinion.

Also look at the diversification of the portfolio. Higher diversification equates to lower risk overall.

There are so many factors involved, it can be a minefield!

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