As a Manager (even with a concentration in Data), I find that I spend 90% of my time in meetings, which leaves little time for code review and other tasks needed by my team. Is this the case for most of you? And does anyone have visibility into whether this breakdown is different in industry?

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Say no to meetings. Or send someone. Saying no to things is part of the job.

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Um yes. I’m literally a specialist and so many meetings and ugh I need to review so much work because contracts require an appropriately credentialed person sign off on everything…

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It depends on the culture. I’m very much anti-meeting unless it’s necessary (confirming requirements to rule out scope-creep, getting stakeholders in a room to test the solution rather than emailing them because they’ll never do it on they’re own etc.).

FWIW I’ve stepped down from managerial work to IC as I’m freelancing now. There’s a lead on my project who will setup meetings to talk about meetings and I’m not even joking. 15 minute status updates turn into 2 hour ‘resolution’ calls. I’ve put my foot down and said no as no issues will get resolved whilst I’m on a call with a non-technical person (the lead). I give the update, state the issue, the resolution and an ETA - they don’t need more details than that when there’s no down or upstream impacts

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I’m glad that you made that transition. I’ve definitely considered it. I do love the people management/mentoring aspect of my job but these meetings 😭😭😭

Seniors should be reviewing each others code if possible

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I’m realizing part of the problem is the facts that my team is pretty flat outside of myself. I may have to suggest additional headcount. I’ve also started to entrust one of my team members to step into that Senior role in certain areas and that’s been pretty great

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This is an issue I’ve found across industries. It’s why burnout among Tech managers is so common. Because your days quickly grow to 10-12 hour days.

In my last role the majority of my day was double booked with meetings (attending from both systems and phones hoping I don’t miss anything important) and then my after working hours doing all the tasks I couldn’t get done during the day because I was already multi-tasking conference calls

All of which I was required to attend. I tried delegating to leads some of the meetings (daily client stand ups for example) or team stand ups and was told in no uncertain terms that I had to be there because leads don’t have time to summarize reports and the client shouldn’t have to.

It’s a tough job. I took a Paycut to exit consulting and move to a Corp DM role, but it’s worth it to not have 5 projects across 3 clients to manage.

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I hear you 100% and I’m glad you were able to make that transition for your sanity’s sake

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My manager doesn't do code reviews. We have peers for code reviews. He did them last year, but he missed critical issues. He spends more time meetings, so he wasn't as skilled as the team.

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That’s a good point honestly. I can admit that I’m not as sharp as I used to be lol. Much of our conversations are more about verifying approach, but code review does also happen

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As you move up, delegation of everything that someone else from your team can handle becomes crucial.
You do what only you can do.

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This. But then also I’ll add again my frustration of having to professionally sign off on accuracy so I can’t delegate that or I could risk my credentials

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Love the comments here. I love that there is a strong community of people in these positions giving each other advice. Keep it up people!

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Yes I have to spend night time to code or review. Lots of client & team meetings and chats fragment my day...

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🥲 that’s been me lately

Learn to say no and to delegate. The job of a manager is usually less about doing and more about helping others do.

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Dual monitors. Don’t put the camera directly in front.

Looks like you need scrum masters there to guard your time from those meetings
I am available if there are any openings 😁

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