Asking for a friend: Associate attorney with 2290 billable requirement and $119,000 annual salary in the Bay Area in California. Reasonable?

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High billable req for salary. Would expect 1900

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What’s the practice area? I do WC insurance defense, my billables are usually 225 a month so 2700 a year and I make $120k plus bonuses. I am on the lower end for money but the billables at other firms are higher so I’m about average overall. I think it depends on what area of law.

A lot of items in comp are task based.

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Please tell me you’re kidding. For that salary in the Bay Area? Apologies, but if your friend is going to work in a sweatshop the least he/she can do is be compensated commensurately.

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Leave your job and become a biglaw paralegal. You'll make more, esp. in OT.

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LP1, good for you.

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HUD defined “Low Income Limits” in San Francisco as $82,200 for an individual and $117,400 for a family of four in 2018, based on 80% of the area's median income.

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No?

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Lol

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Bad big law like hours and high COL city

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Not at all. For $119k, they should get 1900 hours out of a first year associate billing at $195/hour. Any hour requirement beyond that, and it’s a bad deal for the associate. I think the rule of thumb is that your salary should be 33% of the hourly fees you generate over the course of a year

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120 in the Bay Area is low. If the firm is located outside of Sf then it would be doable because you could live in a lower cost suburb and not have a horrendous commute on top of a crushing billable hour requirement. But if the position is in the city, it would be really tough to find a comfortable place to live without having an hour- hour and a half (or more) commute each direction on public transportation because it would take longer and be almost impossible to afford to drive in on that salary (bridge toll $7/per day and parking $400+ per month).

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Cosign. Many tech companies hiring like crazy in the burbs and a lack of housing means that Most Bay Area burbs are no cheaper than SF, and commutes, and cost of car ownership (gas/ins) eat a lot of what possible savings there might be.

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It all depends on what your hourly rate is. Your salary should be dependent on the individual revenue you produce for the year.

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Should is the operative word.

What’s his total comp after bonuses?

Is this a first year associate?

That seems low for the amount of billable hours.

Lol there is a lot to unpack in your reply A3 - but however as an Sf native I would not consider 3500 per month for a two bedroom expensive I am paying 3000/month for a one bedroom but I walk to work everyday - so you get what you pay for. So thank you for confirming that there are much cheaper places to live outside the city lol.

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