What do you do when you feel the goalpost has been/is being moved re: billable requirements? Like there's a spoken vs unspoken? I chose this job based on billables vs salary and what I'm being told I'm expected to do now is 20-30% (at least) > than what was initially agreed upon. Given my other life responsibilities, this is creating a huge strain & I feel like this is slowly getting harder & harder on my spouse & kids. I'm grateful to have lots of good work but not sure how to course correct.

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What do you do? You look for a new job.

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Leave. There is always room for "more" work. Don't keep chasing their moving goal - it's not worth your mental health.

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Start looking for a new place because you don’t want to be at a place where there is the bait and switch.

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Was originally told 150-160. Then minimum 167. Then 180. Then 200. And yes, as I hit each tier, it was revealed to me that “actually we expect more and you’re underperforming.”

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I'm hearing "well the initial number is ok if you only care about doing the bare minimum - if you want to succeed here and demonstrate that you're partner material, you're going to have to do more." (He would not clarify what "more" means.)

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I'd just do the minimum or slightly more. Say they require, or expect 1800, I would not do more than 1900 at all, and even then I'd probs sit pretty and be fine around 1850.

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