Been offered a job at IRS Office of Chief Counsel in their SBSE division and another offer with a tax controversy firm. Obviously, the firm pays more, but I’ve been unsure about which one to take. The IRS offer is in a city where I know some people which is appealing, but I guess I wanted to know if anyone recommended one or the other. I’ve heard the work life balance is great for the IRS, but wasn’t sure if the firm was a better opportunity.

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I recently started with Chief Counsel, and I'm loving it. Every time I turn around, there's something great about this job. My boss is chill, colleagues are super respectful and helping, work is (relatively) non-stressful, and I get to research really cool, intricate areas of the law and apply them to the weirdest fact patterns. I'm working with taxpayers and their POAs, but also providing guidance to DOJ on tax cases and internally to exam and appeals. Benefits are fantastic (especially retirement), and CC employees were just made eligible for loan repayment assistance (on top of PLSF). I'm in a mid-size market, and I'm also coming from a somewhat stressful nonprofit background so that may be coloring my perspective, but frankly, I feel like I'm finally "home" in my career. It's weird to hang out with my friends in private practice (big law and mid size firms) because I just cannot relate to their complaints about work at all.
And even if you wind up in a business unit you don't ultimately love, after a year, you get priority for openings in other units/cities. PM me if you want more info.

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Any info on years in and salary range?

I would recommend going with chief counsel, I wish I had done it earlier in my career and the longer you are in firms the harder that pay cut becomes to swallow. In addition they are hiring now like they never have before so I think it’s the time to get in. The experience you gain at chief counsel will make you much more desirable.

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Chief counsel national office definitely parlays really nicely in to transactional work.

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I started in Chief Counsel but in LB&I. I transitioned to DOJ Tax Division and then private practice. The experience in the government is invaluable and highly sought after in the private market. I would recommend starting there, give it a few years and if you’re still itching to go private make the move. The opportunities will always be there.

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I would say IRS because most cases will occur in that realm administratively and in Tax Court. Much fewer cases go to the U.S. District Courts so you’re less likely to see them in private practice.

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It’s not uncommon (although not necessarily easy) to pivot from chief counsel to either DOJ tax or a biglaw firm’s tax practice. Long term, chief counsel may be a better route if you’re able to parlay that experience to later landing a firm job. That’s assuming you don’t want to be a government lifer, which is also fine and which offers substantial benefits like work life balance (as you mention) and a 401k with pension plan (the tsp plan)

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It’s in progress. They only unveiled the merger internally within chief counsel a couple months ago.

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Are you a tax LLM?

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Yes, I’m in a dual degree program

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