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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
Does GS provide permanent WFH?
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The job market is an open market. No one is forced to work anywhere. Work is an agreement between two parties, each exchanging something of value. Both parties agree on the terms and neither is obligated to stay in the relationship if these terms become untenable to one or more of the parties. Basically if you don’t like the rules where you work, go work somewhere else. If Elon is wrong the market will punish him…but only time will tell.
For some jobs it makes sense to have people in the office to really collaborate in person but for the rest of us minions who realized that we ‘work to live’ and our jobs really won’t change the world in a meaningful way can get the job done from our homes just as easily as we can get it done in the office. I don’t need to commute 3-4 hours to do what I can do at home it’s BS.
Bold? More like unhinged.
The turnover is probably the point
"This is less than we ask of factory workers" hooooo boyyy that's a bad comment
A1 you are needlessly complicating the issue.
You don’t know the details if the factory workers are being forced to work more than 40 hours.
Its just speculation, and we don’t know may be the workers love working more hours and get overtime pay.
Lol. Why would he walk this back? The fact is that most people are not fully productive working from home. That's a fact.
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I hated going to the office, sitting in traffic, sitting in a cube, sitting in traffic home and STILL needing to work at night in busy seasons. It’s gross and sad and my whole family hated it really.
Started WFH during COVID, was happier, more productive, took an hour lunch each day to walk down the street and pick my kids from school and walk home together. I had dinner with my family every night instead of people at the office who I was seeing 65 hours a week. I saved money, I saved time, I lost weight, I gained some actual peace. Best thing that ever happened to me.
Oh, and productivity skyrocketed because I was happy.
I wish he’d just go to mars already. So tired of him.
People can’t just milk this Covid thing forever and work from home if they employer wants them in the office. . He owns the company. If he wants employees back in the office then he wants them back in the office. If they don’t want to do it they can quit and find another job. I’m sure he’s well aware of that. lots of jobs out there right now.
ACD1 yeah he has a corporate team around him tho. If they’re doing it this way ruffling feathers is likely the point. this is an easy way of weeding out people who have grown lazy or redundant over covid. It’s also a great way of generating attrition without doing layoffs. If he’s smarter than apple they’ll freely give wfh exemptions to key employees he wants to retain.
It’s a way to trim staff without paying severance or announcing layoffs. See past the culture war bullshit.
yeah the usual play is to just tactically grant exceptions to talent you want to keep then use the general policy to drive attrition
Why can’t he spell “acceptable”?
He is trying to get people to quit. There is a Bloomberg article saying they are looking at a 10% staff reduction- he’s just trying to get people to leave on their own
And for no good reason that his personal belief that people aren't working if they are doing it from home. Same message as came from Vishal Garg at Better.com but just only slightly more tactful.
I have no idea what the job market it like for those employed by Tesla but we all know PA wants to force us back but doesn’t have the power right now bc for the most part they need us more than we need them. Job market is too hot.
If/when the tide turns I fully expect these types of things to occur.
I’m not sure what the official policy is but my team pretty much never goes in except the partner. We all live in the same city. I think we’re supposed to go in 2-3 days a week but nobody monitors it.
How many days per week and hours will Elon be in? Hmm?
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you should be able to agree with all of it instead of caping for billionaires
He can demand it, they can jump to another firm.
Tesla is famous for high turnover, now he’s made it worse.
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What would he have to walk back?
Not a thought given. He knows nothing about the psychology of the workplace. He is a narcissist with very little grip on reality.
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I hope the Tesla employees take one for the team and quit. If employers see that people like Elon can make these kinds of statements and it solves the problem and everything goes back the way it was, they’ll start making similar statements.
Tesla/spaceX really isn’t that cool, there’s cooler stuff
Elon was that guy in high school who would seem cool enough to invite to parties until he goes to a party and is awkward AF.
He should just be like Bezos and embrace the hate
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Eh. Nothing from him surprises me anymore
I will work from the office under a few conditions:
1. My computer will never come home with me
2. I’ll be in at 8 and out at 4:30
3. I’ll be unreachable outside the hours mentioned in (2)