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Gunderson is known (atleast amongst associates at peer firms) to be terrible to women, and now we'll add POC to the mix as well. In fact, when the first woman (also white) became partner in their corporate practice there was a LOT of discussion around that.
The person who posted that on LinkedIn is a token POC partner who was made hiring partner for that reason alone. He is also notoriously painful to work with at GD and is not a nice person at all. Just really good at sales.
A person isn’t diverse. Diverse is a description of different people within a group. If you mean Black, Hispanic, Indigenous, Asian, Women, Gay, transgender, etc., then say that. When you say a person is diverse, you’re saying that straight Caucasian males are the default humans. Lol
Mentor
Diversity means different that a firm full of sameness
Mentor
Maybe this is what happens when you hire based on trying to fill a certain quota versus hiring for merit and experience.
I think that's likely a misunderstanding. 70% POC/LGBT would be extremely aggressive and would limit like 60% of the talent pool to just 30% of the seats. "Max 30% straight white males" is more reasonable and reflective of graduates anyway.
And to the people who think I’m a hater, I really enjoy working at the firm but also believe it should be shamed.
Coach
Thanks for pointing this out! This is the kind of thing we don’t see from the outside!
Subject Expert
Gen X, Bay Area native here. Anti-Asian racism has a long history in SV corporate culture and government despite the large Asian population. It didn’t get better until Asians got rich and started owning things. Used to be a joke that you had to have a white guy out front in order to get any sort of play with the VCs.
There's still a large disparity between the demographics of the founders and the tech talent. The Asians who get funded tend to be the most "culturally white" as well.
When your back’s against the wall and it’s down to dollars and cents, you remember that diversity, equity, inclusion, pro bono was really just marketing and you proceed accordingly.
Not sure why you’re inventing an argument. Just stating facts about reality.
Can confirm most of those laid off in the norcal offices this time were women which isn’t shocking. It’s easy for the firm to pretend to care about diversity when the times were good but now the truth is apparent.
Coach
Women and POC were definitely not given the same mentorship, staffing or bro-fist bump opportunities in NorCal. Period.
I was assigned a senior partner mentor who didn't even live in NorCal. We all tried to set up time with this mentor, even over zoom. He'd cancel. I found out months later that other mentor groups (all male, no surprise) went out drinking every month and met weekly, where their mentor helped with staffing levels and deal flow. I had no idea this kind of help even existed at the firm.
Another colleague, same year, has gone surfing and mountain biking with clients.
When people talk about bro culture at Gunderson, this is what they mean.
It's not a level field. The same partners who didn't care for years whether there were any women or many diverse associates--still in charge. They don't care. It's not a firm value.
Mentor
Finally, something Kirkland didn’t totally screw up!!
People need to stop spreading this narrative about Cooley. I don’t have hard numbers, but they have a disproportionately large number of East Asian associates (compared to the general population), at least in my practice group — to the extent that almost every transaction I worked on had at least one, if not multiple, East Asian team members — and of the 10-15 associates and paralegals I knew of that were affected by the layoffs, not a single one was East Asian.
What I’m saying is that while there may have been a surprising, from an outside perspective, number of East Asians included among those let go, you need the denominator (the number of East Asians at Cooley to begin with) to determine whether they were disproportionately affected.
Wow, a personal sample size! What a great metric. Good job senior paralegal.
Also last thing: that claim that 85% of associates are white is clearly wrong, which anybody who has worked at GD or even reviewed the website can confirm. That figure is outdated by a decade. Literally just go to the website and count. The main offices are about 60-40 white just based on the website.
Coach
Buy do any of those efforts matter if white males are still given preferential treatment and most diverse hires are new/not shepherded through training, mentorship or staffing opportunities? Can a leopard change its spots?
Of all 5 associates I know at Cooley, 3 got fired. All Asians. I’m not a white girl who only has Asian friends 🤣