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Is it fair, probably not but life isnt fair. Dont post dumb stuff online. It isnt that hard.
Nothing changes with anything you post. The only thing you risk is upsetting people needlessly.
There is plenty i want to say about a specific group... But I gain nothing by doing it.
Frankly, I pretty much hate both parties now given the recent turn of events. Both are hypocritical at their core.
Anyways, here we are. Nothing changes.
It’s okay to share your opinion and you shouldn’t be fired for it. What isn’t okay is celebrating someone’s death. Thats an ethical issue not a freedom of speech issue. So if they want to fire that person, go right ahead
What exactly is your question? The thread isn’t about Charlie’s remarks it’s about other people’s remarks.
Free speech doesn’t mean “I get to say whatever I want and still keep my cushy paycheck.” It just means the government can’t throw you in jail for mouthing off. Your boss? Totally different story. If you go online screaming your political hot takes and it makes the company look bad, don’t act shocked when HR suddenly discovers your position is “redundant.”
Social media is basically yelling through a megaphone in the town square and then pretending it was a private diary. If people don’t like what they hear—customers, coworkers, your boss—you’re gonna feel it. That’s not censorship, that’s consequences.
Is it fair? Eh. Depends if you’re the one getting fired or the one stuck working next to a guy who thinks “professional conduct” means Facebook rants at 2 a.m.
The sooner you learn Life's Not Fair, the less angry you'll be.
Completely fair. Your words have consequences.
I don’t have any problem with the evil people who celebrated the murder of Charlie suffering the consequences of their actions. I hope there’s a way to make “anonymous” postings on various social media (including FB) no longer anonymous so we can see who some of the odious keyboard warriors really are.
If your social media post will reflect badly on your employer and cause clients to reconsider their business relationships, you need to provide your commentary anonymously. No employer needs to lose business for you.
This is really two questions:
1. Are people aware of their company's social media policies?
2. Should companies (in a mostly at-will employment context) be permitted to sever ties with an employee if they feel that that employee will negatively impact their brand image?
The consideration must likewise be given as to whether terminating someone for social media activity will also have an impact on both brand image and internal stakeholders.
You're not sad he was assassinated and dead? Well, I am sad you weren't.
I’m sad for his family, especially his kids. But the idolizing and sanitizing of the man is getting out of hand…like are we seriously lowering flag and comparing him to mlk? Bffr.
It’s only fair if they mention or bring their employee/employer into the topic without considering or knowing backgrounds and beliefs unless being appointed to do so, and represent the company as a
Lifes not fair. lesson one from life on ones own.
You are the "agent" of your own personal brand if you decide to post an opinion on social media. If the issue is sticky or even somewhat controversial, think before posting or even reacting. That stuff stays online forever. You might change your opinion as you age. Its a matter of the internet being an ADVERTISING MEDIUM. So think, "could this hinder my earning capacity?" before posting something that employers might find.
We can only come to a single conclusion on this topic. Racism, cancel culture, and censorship is at all time high. Any other conclusion is a distraction.
Many employment contracts are at will. This means either party can terminate it for no reason. While freedom of speech gives you the right it doesn't say you should. You make that decision and must accept the consequences of your actions fair or unfair.
I totally believe that personal opinions should Never have an impact on your professional life. Personal opinions are personal for a reason, unless of course, you are the owner yourself.
I tell my career advisees to use their own discretion. In general, don’t advocate for or celebrate criminal activity, don’t support or advocate violence, and don’t fly off the handle with a dissenting opinion.
I know that many have strong feelings about Charlie Kirk and believes he is a saint or promoted hate speech. Charlie was a polarizing figure and his time on this earth will be debated/manipulated for several generations. As such, I’m not writing one iota about Charlie on social media. Don’t get me wrong, I do have opinions, but I’m exercising my right to not share my opinions with others.
Let's not pretend that in todays society that most employers both private and public have social media policies. Particularly in government, city, state employment. You can have your beliefs and you can celebrate the death of a human being... but its on you if you post it knowing its open for the public to see and share. And it allows your work, coworkers and everyone to see the kind of human being you are - in which it makes people question your ability to do you job effectively without needing to question bias. They deserve to be fired for that decision making if that's what they as humans find acceptable in their heart, heads and as a fellow human.
With this also comes with an actual understanding of the 1st amendment. As Americans we have the freedom of speech (to include) without government interference. It does not protect your right to employment. That is determined by your employer.
Fair or not - my question is how do people not know this is what is going to happen by this point??? This isn't a new thing. It's literally SOP at this point. Regardless of the topic or opinion - if you're willing to risk it to post it then yes, you deserve it.
Of course not, but we’re in a country where free speech is only allowed if it supports one view these days. Stay quiet for a few years and…God willing…we will return to some semblance of humanity.
If a person makes comments that reflect poorly on their employer, the business reputation , or causes other employees to fear for their safety than yes they can be terminated. The private sector has the right to terminate that employee. First amendment rights are to protect you from retaliation from the government.
If you post online, it is up to the company to determine if the values and opinions you put forward are in line with the company itself. It has always been up to society to determine what will be socially acceptable or not. Do I think it goes to far at times? Yes. Do I think people can overreact to simple, but hard truths? Yes.
We all know what this is about. So I will officially say celebrating violence, on either side, is wrong. And make no mistake, both sides have been callous in the face of violence. But simply quoting a person, and discussing what you thought of their views is NOT celebrating violence in any way. It opens the door to discuss the very real threat that political division causes in society.
Right now, America is facing a crisis. The divide between religious ideologies, and personal freedoms has never been greater. It will break the country into pieces if they can't learn to live with each other. But I've never seen religious ideologies peacefully live with different beliefs, so I have my doubts about it ever happening.
They can taste sweetness of cancel culture, why not lol. You guys get this yourself
I believe that in this day and age, what you put online matters. A company has a reputation to uphold, and often has policies around behaviour. If you put something online, you have to be able to accept that it could come back to you, good or bad. Free speech only covers you from government censorship. Do I always agree with public sentiment on issues? No. For example, the idea that you shouldn't be relieved that a racist person is no longer able to spread hate, and anything other than mourning is a celebration. Nonsense. But I accept that, socially, there will always be restrictions on how we interact with each other. And in those cases, the majority always wins.