EY 🐠 How hard to get promoted to SM for lateral hire on M level? I have offer to join as M coming from industry 13 yoe non mba and hands on technical position. Don't know how much time I need to wait for next level.

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To make SM in big 4, you will also have to sell and have a pipeline. That can be hard to do quickly if you’ve never done that before.

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It depends on a lot of factors. Consulting involves a lot of internal work and networking to get promoted then you will also have sales targets. All of which is challenging to acclimate to if you are coming in from a non-consulting background. I came in from industry a few years ago and someone told me it takes ~18 months to adjust and I thought they were crazy but in retrospect, I’d say thats about right. I’m sure it’s different for everyone but in a lot of ways its like starting over bc you have to learn a new way of doing things and everything is in a much more challenging timeline.
My advice is to focus on the $$$ and not the title. Personally I love delivery and not so much the internal stuff and sales so I’m in no rush to make it to SM. Good luck!

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Thanks for suggestion appreciate it.

Do you want the salary at the level or the responsibility or both?

from $102 to $190 I will have to find exact level. I wasn't aware about different levels until I posted this question.

3-4 years I believe

Hey OP. If O were in your place and if I had some more patience and/ or another offer, I would push back hard on the level or get commitment to promote you in 6-12 months if you’re able to prove yourself in the initial few months. Hiring people at wrong levels is highly sub-optimal at so many levels and should be avoided (unless you’re desperate for this job.. in which case there’s not much room for negotiating..). All the best!

SM is probably the most challenging role, it’s much more than just being a technical expert not worth it unless you wanna make partner


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What practice?

Its tech consulting...transformation, digital and enablement Cloud space

What level M are you coming in at? I came in last year as an M4 and expect to make SM this summer.

Did you come from industry or consulting? Also did you ask about next level before joining or discussed after joining the firm?

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The issue with the ‘fast track to promote’ is that a lot of firms/leaders have moving targets, so they can easily come up with a reason not to.

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