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Partner Interview (6th interview).
Good or Bad?
My referral had interviews w/ (1)
recruiter, (1) SM, then the series of
(3) 1:1's w/(1) MD and (2) SM's.
The recruiter said he will now have
an interview in Jan. w/ the PPMD.
He interviewed for a M role in
consulting for customer marketing.
11 YOFE
He does have a wide skill set and the
recruiter said it was all positive
feedback, just have to find out
where to put him (on the team he
interviewed for or another he is
qualified for).Deloitte
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My suggestion is getting your feet wet first.
The joys of being a staff 1- everyone dreams of being a manager when they first start, but many leave before then (voluntarily because they quickly discover PA might not be for them, or involuntarily)
The advise I give to most people who are just starting their career is: stay curious, develop thick skin and be humble.
1. Be curious to learn as much as possible from your peers and superiors (seniors, managers etc);
2. During this learning process, you’ll come across people that are very blunt. Don’t take their criticism personally. Breathe in and move on.
3. Don’t be a know it all prick on your team. Humble people go far.
How about staff 2 to Partner? Any advice to help me out?
Don’t do it... honestly. I know you are still thinking in short term cycles from school, but welcome to the start of a 40 year long career. 40 years!!! Don’t rush through building the foundation
Be proactive not reactive - show that you can handle project management, meeting all deadlines, and understand overall impact of jobs on the team. I want to see someone can manage their jobs and also be part of our larger team goals
You need to be proactive - get on key engagements and work as hard as you can.
Agreed with EY6. I am an early promote to manager as well. It’s largely out of your hands. Clearly you have to be performing above your peers (I was 5 rated that year), but it mainly comes down to whether the firm needs a manager on that job. You have to be filling a void. They won’t promote you to manager if the job is already well staffed with managers and senior managers. I will also echo what everyone else has said. Focus on being a great staff for now.
OP, I was promoted to manager after 3 years, which is very fast, even in my tax consulting group. My experience is that consulting or specialty groups promote with merit (technical + people skills) in mind first and foremost, and politics tend to take a backseat. There are certainly exceptions to this general rule, and core tax / assurance groups do not follow the same approach in most instances. The best favor you can do yourself at this stage is to find a rockstar manager to model, and figure out through coaching discussions what your group will value most as you progress through each level. Good luck!
OP. In order to be earlier promo’d from what I’ve seen requires 2 things. One, work on a large important client, two, have an opening at the manager position at said client. Those are the only ones I’ve seen promoted
Ignore the naysayers. It’s good you know where you want to be in 3-5 years. But... focus on being a good staff first. Self review! Try to first make your senior irrelevant. If you have gotten down to zero comments back, that’s great. Make sure you understand why and what you are doing. Can you teach someone else? Would you know what to do if you weren’t just rolling over SALY? Sometimes good staff don’t make good seniors if they don’t know how to delegate and teach. After all that, you cannot assume they will promote early. Even if you’re good they are not going to promote you if you will end up struggling or if there is no need for a manager early.
Lmfaoooooo focus on cash reconciliation first
Be positive and ambitious (you’re on the right track). And learn to deal with the cynicism of those that are not.
Seek sponsorship and forget about your life outside work
An event like this should take priority over whatever you are doing. Enough said here on this point. I recommend have early and frequent communication with every party. Come up plan with your team and hr
Just celebrate that you work in a professional/industry where manager is standard after 5 years. You're good - just let life happen for you. If it's still a goal, figure out who has early promoted in your office. In mine, specifically for audit, only FSO early promotes because we have significant turnover there.
I was early promoted - I wouldn’t rush it if it happens it happens. It’s only a year after all. I would make your goal to do well and if you do well others will recognize it. There also has to be a need to early promote you so keep that in mind.
Best tips I was given: be proactive and an effective project manager (you can start doing this as a staff - just ask for opportunities and things you can take off your seniors' plate), build knowledge (you need the technical expertise in your field, it should be no question once you’re presented to the roundtables that you possess the knowledge); be altruistic and fight for your teams (means you have to be confident and know how to navigate through challenging situations), and very important - manage upwards. Keep grinding consistently, ask for feedback and actually improve from the feedback. Demonstrate and continue working on these things and let the power of office influence and word-of-mouth, including the persistence of asking for fast track, and you’ll get there. The key is to evidence you are bring value to the success of the practice (relatively-speaking per your peers), and partners will see to it to promote you rather than see you leave.
Also communicate your goals to your coach (for now I would say goal is senior and then when you get to senior ask what it takes to get to manager) always be aware of the expectations of what needs to be done to get to the next stage and then there is no chance for a disconnect
Hell I came in as an attorney with a JD and LLM - they made me a Staff 2
^ Basically a client that required 70%+ of your time for the 4 years of your audit career
Our office was told that EY no longer does early promotions.
^not true. Two seniors in my office just got double promoted to manager.