Hi everyone, I work at an early stage start up that just closed our round A. I just hired a director below me, however when it was time to come up with an offer I was removed from the conversation. The CO-founders said they’d handle the actual offer amount/equity. I joined early so salary is low but I have decent equity. Not sure if they didn’t want me seeing the offer or if this is normal for early start ups.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Annoying nuances of small business mindset.
You can simply ask the Co-founders would it not be normal me having visibility to my team’s compensation/incentive plan?

Also you are probably underpaid and should negotiate with them a better salary to avoid this from happening. If you are critical to the business use your leverage.

like

You should be included, unless they are paying the director more than you.

like

It’s always possible that they’d rather not inspire your future negotiations but what does it matter?

It’s impossible for us to know what they’re up to but it’s reasonable to expect the founders are keeping everyone pay separate bc what each person negotiates to be happy is what they each negotiate to be happy.

You should absolutely know how your team members are incentivized but if a subordinate is getting paid close to, more than, or totally differently (fixed vs variable) than you - it doesn’t actually matter unless everyone knows it. If there’s a case to be made for why you want to make more than you’re currently making, then make the case regardless of what anyone else is getting.

Worrying about getting more than others is what leads to cascade raises and not allowing people to negotiate bc it could have a cascading impact to those above.

Related Posts

What's the bonus / hike one can expect in HSBC EDPI?
Level 6

like

I am a mid level and have received an offer from a regional big law firm in a non-market paying location. I believe the firm would be a great fit and the location is where I want to be. The biggest issue is money. I’d be lateraling from full cravath in a major market and the initial offer I received is a bit off that (read: 50% salary reduction). While the market is cheaper in some respects, housing is not. How far can I expect this firm to go to in terms of compensation? Any negotiation tips?

like

So for those of you who are in learning and development: what are trainers making now days? Interested to know salary & years experience! TIA

like

What will be the in-hand salary for Tata Consultancy? Please helps should I join or retain by taking hike
Current : 13 lpa Infosys
Yoe 7.5
Skills: .net core, MVC, web api, angular , AWS, azure

Post Photo
like

Which one is better between Snowflake and Barclays if both are offering the same package for YOE 11?

like

Any Amazon counsel or other FAANG attorneys willing to share how their comp review has worked? I’m really happy with my offer(lower base, really high signing bonus and decent RSUs) and was told their would be yearly comp reviews but wondering how that plays out the first few years...

like

Hi, I have two years bond for two lakhs
Served 1 year 3 months yet.
No project
Found a job for 6 lpa
Current package is 4

How to break bond without paying much bond amount
How much shud i be paying if I have to
Should I wait for the hike ?
Do they really give you a hike after 18 months???

Hello sharks, which band and role will be offered in Wipro for 3.5 YOE in iT, relevant 2.7 in devops
Would they offer project engineer with b1 band or associate Project Engineer with A1 band

like

What is shift allowance in LTI

Hi
I am a senior graphic designer
Work experience - 8years
How much salary should I be getting?

like

Workday I’m a QA Automation Analyst with 2 yoe. I gave my tech interview for Workday and cleared it on Tuesday. I’m currently holding an offer of 15.1 from a bank. How much can I ask from workday?
Tech stack. - Selenium,Java,Jenkins,Salesforce automation.

like

How do you begin a compensation conversation with your partner? Do you discuss it during your annual compensation discussion? If so what is a good way to ask for a raise?

like
like

Any insights into negotiating a full time salary in tech sales? Do I need competing offers to do so?

like

What is the salary for Software Engineer position at Optum?

Hi folks. Is Apisero good to join at 8.5 LPA for 2.3 YoE? Any advice?

Hi fishes, my friend wanted an urgent refferal in Pharmaceutical Consulting in Delhi NCR area, Gurgaon,Noida.
Qualifications: M.Pharm (from Tier-1 clg)
YOE:16 months
Current CTC:6.5

Any leads will be helpful!!!
Please respond, it's urgent for him!

like

Hello everyone
I have already accepted the offer of a company X and completed all the onboarding formalities. Meanwhile, I received an offer from another company Y which is giving me more fixed and joining bonus. I'm more inclined towards joining company X. Would it be right to ask X to match the new offer. How should i go about it.
My joining is a week away so I really need your input.

like

Salary for senior copywriter in Chicago. 6 years experience at big agencies? Good book but no lions yet.

like

In discussions to make a lateral move. Is there any way I can negotiate higher pay outside the fixed bands? Higher annual bonus, signing bonus? I assume chances are low but worth trying.

like

More Posts

Looking for potential roles in PDX. Posting a redacted resume. The heading on this resume is for customer solutions professional, but I am also really great with data entry and very tech savvy. I am also taking classes in python. Something in the greater PDX area would be strongly preferable since I don't have a car (I do have a driver's license, just to clarify) unless the work is within a reasonable commute. I also have a lot healthcare experience. Ping me!

Post Photo
like

I got two offers in analytics ( risk management) HSBC and EY india Salary difference is 60k yearly and EY offered 2 lacs joining bonus. Which one will be better to join.

Overall 9 years of experience. Relevant 4.5 years

like

What is the current Market Salary of sap basis admin with 9 years of experience?

like

Hi,

KPMG has mentioned in offer that they shall provide reimbursement for purchase of home computer for 1L once every 3 years

Is this right???

like

Did you make a mistake working in BigLaw? Why?

likefunny

Hello,

My CA friend is currently working largest natural resources and mining company in Delhi NCR. She is planning to switch job within Delhi NCR in Industry. She has 3 years of PQE in financial reporting, tax accounting and currently working in FP&A role.

Any leads would be highly appreciated.

What were some effective tips or resources that helped you to learn the systems of your first firm? We feel like our firm admin/paralegal is not getting acclimated and not assisting the firm as we hoped. So we want to make sure we’re effectively training her and providing the best resources/tools for success.

like

Hi People,
I'm looking for a job change. I've been working with Infosys for HSBC bank as a Java Developer for 2 years now.
I've 2 years of experience as java spring boot developer.
Could you please help to refer me in your company? Product based company will be more suitable.
Let me know if any information required.
Thanks.

Dear 6am calls, I dont 💕 you. 🥹

like

If you had to wipe a company off the face of the earth based on their customer support, which one would it be??

like

What’s the culture like at Ogilvy San Francisco?

So much baggage brought into the relationship. 2 years in and just discovered a whole lot more. Its been mentally extremely difficult and it’s changed me as a person. Just venting but feel hopeless and I know my SO is suffering. Wish there was a solution but I’m losing hope

like

Does having AWS Certification help H1B case?

like

Hi
Anyone working in TCS Bayer project? I want to know about WLB and on-site opportunities.

like

I am the president of our school board at Franklin Country School Corporation in Brookville, In. I would like to start a NASA Stem project starting in school year 2022-2023. Does anyone know where I need to start?

likehelpful

Currently am working in one of the mnc and for morgan stanley account i am a part of technology and operational risk division. Since my client is morgan stanley good i be able to join morgan stanley? Or there will be any cool off period?

Hi everyone, best project to be a product owner in Nagarro? Please reach out 1-o-1 if required. I have recently joined as a PO , APC with a hope of doing good legit work.

Any help is extremely appreciated 🙏🏻

like

Folks can someone share recommendations for a trusted movers and packers to move from Chicago to Bay Area?

like

Stolen from FB. Everyone has had a manager/client contact like this

Post Photo
likefunny

Additional Posts in Startups and Entrepreneurship

If you left your job to push your business, what steps would you recommend before doing so?

The business is profitable, I’ve got savings…
Just nervous I guess.

like

Side hustle or startup ideas for someone who isn’t technical/doesn’t code? Where should I look or where to begin? I don’t have any strong passions or specific skills that I’m confident in. What books, articles, blogs, orgs, events, people I should follow for inspiration that has helped you? I have some cash to invest and am looking for a part time hustle that can cash flow at least a little bit of money on the side.

like

For startup founders/people with a successful side project: How did you get the idea/inspiration for your business? I’m currently working at a Series B startup and my end goal has always been to found my own startup, but I graduated from college 2.5 years ago and I still have not had any great ideas cross my mind. I do spend a fair amount of time brainstorming. I don’t want to continue working here forever, but I’m struggling to generate that “this is it” idea to build a company for. Any advice?

like

Does anyone have any experience with B2B buy now pay later? While I understand number of SMEs and volume of online transactions are important drivers, keen to hear different perspectives incase I’ve missed anything vital.

like

This could be an interesting opportunity. I’m a youth soccer coach and have become very popular in our area. So much so that a local magazine is going to publish an article on me next month. With a marketable look, is there any pathway for me to utilize this opportunity for lucrative marketing deals? Open to thoughts and ideas.

like

What do people recommend for start-up relevant marketing resources/books/personalities/podcasts?
I have a lot of enterprise marketing experience, but making a jump to a startup and want to get up to speed as quickly as possible.

like

I have a business idea in the VR/AR space utilizing AI. However, I lack skill sets to evaluate viability or to create an MVP. Neither do I have a network to tap into.

My plan is taking classes to deepen my knowledge while joining and actively participating in communities to find collaborators.

Does this approach make sense or do you recommend other approaches? If it makes sense, do you have any recommendations for classes or communities?

Look forward to hearing your experiences and wisdom!

like

As a founder of an e-commerce startup, who would your first hire be? Tech? Finance? Marketing? Customer Service? Social Media? Product Management? Other?

like

Friends, need some feedback on an idea:

I’m thinking of starting a podcast interviewing leaders at startups about their experience with specific challenges - I know, cliche, get a more original hobby, etc.

Not looking for the narrative arc of How I Built This or Masters of Scale. Instead, looking to uncover specific problems faced by companies that tried something new for the first time. What did they not see coming, how did they adapt and measure, etc.

What are your thoughts on this format?

like

Anyone here know specific dedicated sites, channels and communities focused on Product mentorship?
Looking to build lasting mentor and mentee relationships on all things related to product, strategy, leadership and personal, work related issues advice

like
like

Is it worth it to do pitch competitions, accelerators and cohorts?

like

Hi folks, I am working with a few friends on a fintech idea. I opted to build the marketing roadmapping strategy for the soft launch/prototype phase as I want to learn about the field. Any guidance where should I start? Any guidance, books, topics will be helpful 😊

like

What’s the cost range of health insurance for a young family of four if you are self employed?

like

How do vesting schedules typically work for LLCs giving interest to an advisor?

like

How do the big 4 look upon LLC’s and their employees starting a business on the side as long as it was disclosed?

Has anyone found a co-founder(s) for their new venture ideas from this group?

like

anyone know why this error message happens for linkedin business page?

Post Photo
like

You are the first sales hire in a funded tech startup, works directly with ceo/founder. You have the freedom to select your title, what would it be? Chief Revenue Officer? Chief Growth Officer? VP Global Sales and Partnerships? Open to all suggestion, and why?
Role to kickstart partnerships and sign sales agreements with the first 10 companies globally and then grow a team at the right point in time.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal