Hi MBB 🐠 - how common / rare is it to be hired at Principal / AP level laterally from a Tier 2/3? Currently SM at a Tier 2/3 with 11 yoe and wondering what level I should be realistically aiming for. This is for the Public sector practice. Will be moving from Western Europe to SEA. TIA 🙏

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Pretty rare. I am a Principal and I have rarely seen SMs from Tier 2/3 hired as Pr. Most of them are extended PL offers.

Hi G1: presumably it was your hard skills (digital?) that made them re-consider?

Bunch of ppl lateralled from S& to BCG in the last 6 months including Partner level (one below MDP at bcg)

Agree.

My opinion is that it is also very challenging to succeed as a lateral AP. AP/Principle is already the hardest role for those that have had 4 years at the firm to build a network and fit into the culture.

Coming in cold and trying to catch up in time to make partner is so hard. Almost everyone I am aware of who joined as an AP left in 1-2 years.

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