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Rising Star
If you’re vaccinated, how will it affect you?
From the NYT The Morning Newsletter on January 18th 2021:
“If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”
Original sources:
https://www.nejm.org/covid-vaccine/faq?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210118&instance_id=26125&nl=the-morning®i_id=61780393&segment_id=49584&te=1&user_id=0da321b595c457c05a5341dd1c9fcb73
https://mobile.twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1347988651179798530?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210118&instance_id=26125&nl=the-morning®i_id=61780393&segment_id=49584&te=1&user_id=0da321b595c457c05a5341dd1c9fcb73
Yes you are vaccinated. Your odds of getting the virus are low. And even if you did contract it the odds of it being severe are minuscule. It’s hard to get out of the Covid mindset. I’m trying to but it’s strange after living in fear for a year plus!
Enthusiast
You respond however you want. You’re a free person. So are they. Nobody other than the law can force anyone to do or not do anything.
Yeah, it makes zero sense to me that there are now sporting events operating at 100% capacity, that states are lifting mask mandates, that everyone who wants a vaccine can get one and we still should be avoiding normal events like weddings or parties.
The CDC has listed mask mandate for small events. This is much larger plus guests are traveling from other states. And half of the guests are exposed / front line workers. I guess CDC guidelines would be apply for outdoor events in this cause large events are alright without masks as long as theyre outdoors.
Rising Star
I am vaxxed and going to stuff like this maskless. If other people are not vaxxed I don’t know what to say. I might be assuming saying I think the people going to this wedding are able to be vaxxed before, but I’m pretty sure they are.
It's quite simple really, you decide whether or not you want to go, and RSVP or don't. If you think you are important enough to them that they will change course for you, you are likely to be disappointed.
It's their wedding. If you don't like it. Don't go. Simple
Yes, you're overthinking this
Let people live their lives and move on
Also,you don't have to go...
It's your friend's wedding. It is THE MOST important day of his life. He can do the heck he wants.
You don't agree? Then don't go. Simple.
Also, move on with your life gee.
I think you should immediately report your friend to the government. Also definitely have a discussion with your kids at dinner time that if they hear anything funny from your neighbors friends or family they should report it immediately. At times of crisis the only people we can trust are the government. Neighbors friends and family might be trying to subvert society and the protections we put in place.
Option to wait for his second wedding. 50/50 chance it won’t make it which is higher likelihood than getting Covid.
If people wanna wear a mask they will. Simple as that.
Agreed! This crowd is not one that would be into masks because its not "cute"
“Help my friend had a Republican thought SOS”
Wear a mask?
Definitely!! but both people in the interaction should be wearing it, not just one person wearing a mask
If you don’t feel safe, don’t go. It’s their wedding, not yours. And others invited to their wedding can make the same decision for themselves.
I had a 40 person party this weekend, no masks, most people prolly were vaccinated. Do whatever you want and try not to get upset with other people lol
So if you are vaccinated and you decide wear a mask at the wedding, are you still worried about getting sick?
So we actually got married last year and had a small outdoor wedding with less than 50 people. I used this tool to track the risks: https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu/, and then also purchased masks with our initials as wedding souvenirs for anyone that wanted one.
There where a handful of guests that remained masked, but most of us (including myself) didn't because it was so damn hot. But overall risks do go way down in the summer, and being outside brings them down even more. No one contracted the virus from our wedding (in fact I think all of the guests that were there have still remained covid free), but I did read about a wedding that occurred around the same time up in Maine that caused an outbreak, and it made me feel super guilty for a while for taking the risk we had. Granted the wedding in Maine was indoors and a larger wedding, but still, the numbers in Maine were so low at that point that I wouldn't have thought twice about it if it where my wedding (I was also coincidently tracking numbers in Maine at the time too, as that was where we honeymooned).
Overall it's a tough call. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable. It is very hard to go through all of this any way you look at it.
I was in a wedding during COVID with a large crowd and had similar concerns. I just decided I was going to put it out of my mind and attend the festivities as a good bridesmaid and made arrangements so I could self quarantine for 2 weeks following the wedding. My concern wasn’t about me getting it but about spreading it to others so I felt like this was a good compromise. Luckily there were no cases (that we know of) linked to this wedding.
The latest CDC guidelines are very clear about your scenario: large indoor gathering and multiple potentially unvaccinated households.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
I’ll summarize a few misinformation/counterpoints from some commenters posted based on these guidelines:
1) CDC guidelines clearly state you should still wear your masks if meeting with multiple unvaccinated households indoors. If you believe there are more than one single unvaccinated households at the wedding, then you should wear your mask: “In indoor public spaces, the vaccination status of other people or whether they are at increased risk for severe COVID-19 is likely unknown. Therefore, fully vaccinated people should continue to wear a well-fitted mask, cover coughs and sneezes, wash hands often, and following any applicable workplace or school guidance.”
2) There is small risk of transmitting it to the unvaccinated, especially to others and those in their household with several risk of disease: “Although the risk of COVID-19 infection may be minimal to the fully vaccinated person themselves, vaccinated persons should be mindful of the very low potential risk of transmitting the virus to others if they become infected, especially if they are visiting with unvaccinated people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 or visiting with unvaccinated people who have people at increased risk for severe disease in their own households.”
Takeaway: you should go if 1) you are at peace with potentially spreading to other unvaccinated, at-risk folks there (very low risk, but guidelines are explicit about this) 2) if you wear a mask, cause if you and your family are vaccinated, you will be ok
Stop it pwc6, that will contradict OP’s firmly held belief!!! OP is unable to handle new information
Time to move on from this and vax people can live their lives fully
Pro
The wedding is about your friend, NOT you. Don’t go if you’re going to be a pain in their side and wine about their rules. If you are going to go, suck it up and just wear your mask.