I always hear partners complain about how not being W-2 sucks. Ignoring the stability aspect, how much is the difference? $700k in partner comp is equal to what in W-2 comp?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Take 20% off of the partner draw and you have a reasonably good approximation of W2 salary. The full process medical alone is 10%+, depending on the size of your family. Then you add the employer FICA, phantom income and passed through expenses that you can't deduct and it all adds up.

like

Great to know. Thank you AP1! Hoping to get there one day and don’t want to be surprised if I do make it

Every partner I’ve talked to says it’s worse. Health care, taxes, etc. I’ll hear stuff all the time about MDs with high salaries and the comment will be like “and it’s W-2 so better than a partner at that comp”

funny

Partner comp and retirement benefits more than make up for healthcare costs and “cost” of k1 vs w2.

like

K-1 partners pay both the employee and employer portions of social security and medicare taxes. A W-2 employee pays only the employee portion. The employer portion on Social security is 6.2% on up to $176,100 and medicare is 1.45% no cap, so you do the math there.

Partners may be required to pay the full cost of health insurance premiums, while the employer pays a portion of these costs for w-2 employees.

There are some tax benefits to offset these added costs a little but not enough to offset. In the early years of becoming a partner this can definitely be surprising and your take home pay may not be what you expected if you were unaware of this.

likehelpful

Going forward, it will be even worse given PTET limitations in the new tax bill.

like

What PWC2 said.

Why aren't they W2?

funny

Partners can’t be employees of their own partnership.

like

More than $700k in W2 since they can deduct expenses…

like

They have to pay SE tax and (all) state taxes. So their take home pay is less.

Edit: they also don’t get 401k/pension/other employee benefits

Related Posts

Anyone know any amateur photographers in SF? I found out TODAY that the person I hired for a small wedding tomorrow isn’t vaccinated and they can’t get into the venue. Please help a girl out if you know anyone

likehelpful

Hi All,

Need your suggestions.
I got an offer from IBM for 12.4 lpa (11.5 gross). No joining bonus.
I have another offer who are paying me 18.7 lpa (17 fixed + 1.7 var) + 1 lakh JB.
My current CTC is 10.75 (8.05 + var) and YOE 3.6
Is it possible to negotiate with IBM.
I have left with 45 days notice period.
#ibm

like

What is the general interview process for Novartis for a lateral hire? I had an initial discussion with HR around salary expectations but the range I'm looking for was crossing the range Novattis offers for SA. Do they revert back in such cases?

My Accenture recruiter told me that in order to revise my current offer she would need to reject my current offer first and no need to worry on that part. Is this normal? Please provide genuine feedback.

like

I have one more thing that has to go out tonight and Outlook won't connect. Computer may be meeting my gun tonight

like

True or false?

Post Photo
likefunny

How long into practice before someone should be competent to handle a seven figure marital estate (business, maintenance/alimony, and personal property) solo (without supervision from a more experienced attorney)?

like

I applied for a PM role at TikTok over a month ago and my application status has been “Evaluation Passed” for several weeks but I haven’t been contacted about any next steps. Is it typical to wait this long to hear anything?

like
like

Want to start saving/investing from this year. Got £11K and will have £2K a month to invest - any recommendations? I don’t want to take crazy risks, somewhere where this is steady long term growth. Have already maxed out pension and I assume next step is maxing out ISA? After that, what is best? (From UK)

like

Not only is it Christmas Eve, but today is Cady’s 12 year & 10th month Birthday! In this house we celebrate every milestone, including month birthdays.

Post Photo
likeuplifting

Heard a lot about ordinarys products. Any specific profuct that you swear by?

like
like

Hi all, I am an Aws data engineer with 4 years of experience, Aws developer certified. I have only 20 days of notice period left.

Can anyone please refer me to a data engineer role at amazon

like

Hey Sharks
Anyone from the
Amazon Data Science Team/ Current Data Scientist (domain - Predictive Maintenance,Retail,TMT) that can help me prepare for the Amazon Data Scientist interview. A high level road map may help!!
TIA

like

How do firms see candidates seeking to lateral across practice groups? I’m a senior lit associate doing v well at my current firm but seeking a global relocation which might entail switching to a transactional practice. Thinking capital markets since I have a lot of experience in advising our clients of litigation risk when issuing debt etc. Would I even be considered (obvi I expect some cut in seniority)? Is this common?

like

If you are a experienced CAD drafter with experience in environmental remediation, we’re hiring. I’d be happy to discuss the opportunity

Do you take the current economy into consideration when receiving job offers? For example you receive a good offer from a company like Meta/TikTok but are hesitant because they could be laying off soon or rescind an offer versus a lower offer at a more traditional and stable company that tends to be less reactionary with regards to layoffs? Not my current scenario but just curious. I would like to make a move from current employer but this economy has me spooked.

like

Anyone looking for Devops opportunity in Wipro Bangalore ..please DM me for refferal..

like

Additional Posts in Accounting

Is the Supervisor role at RSM equivalent to the Senior role or the Manager role at traditional firms?

likehelpful

Highest number of billable hours you have seen in a year?

like

Just heard EY is about to make more layoffs in audit too

like

What industries is the CFE certification used for? How does it compare to CPA in the length of the material and difficulty? Do most firms pay for It?

like

Made a fireable mistake (timesheet not adding up) at work along with a SERIES of lesser mistakes (but mistakes never the less). Should I just quit? I feel so stupid/slow/inadequate/scared every day.

like

Constantly bugging partner to sign off my CPA experience... what's the point of incentivizing the license to get promoted if I have to keep nagging you to sign off

like

Pittsburgh big4 audit senior salary?

like

Auditor Ernst & Young had questions about Wirecard’s unorthodox accounting arrangements in 2016, emails show, but signed off on them until 2019

likehelpful

I feel like I've been listening to Lookin Exotic all day today....such a good jam

like

How do you know if you’re considered a value employee?

likefunny

Does your coach see when you get a real time recognition award?

like

What can I do with my 3 year experience at big 4, if I exit now? My aim was to always hit 6 figures after 5 years of work but I can’t stand the big 4 workload and stress levels that much longer. Always willing to work hard and long hours. But that is spilling over into Saturday and Sunday’s. My mind does not rest. Persevere or start looking elsewhere?

like

I feel like so much of my job is planning and scheduling that I have 0% left to plan and schedule my personal life. Is that normal? Do I need a Microsoft to do list for normal life 😣

likefunny

Considering obtaining a CFE certification. Can anyone share their experience vs experience obtaining CPA? I’m already a CPA. I just want a comparison of study time requirement and difficulty of exam.

like

I have one more thing that has to go out tonight and Outlook won't connect. Computer may be meeting my gun tonight

like

True or false?

Post Photo
likefunny

I am WAY TOO nice to be in public accounting….

likefunnyhelpful

Any international transfer suffering from ACCA?

like

What’s the deal with work phones at KPMG? Coming from Deloitte where work phones are given.

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal