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No but the new title helped when applying to other manager jobs with better pay
My old job promoted to assistant manager with shit pay and extra work. Wasn’t worth it. But at my new role as a manager the pay was about 9000 more and I only have one direct report. Fwiw I’m a single female living in Philly so it was worth it for me.
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Exactly why I'm fine staying a Senior and maxxing that out.
Not every firm is up-and-out. Huron is generally ok with people who don't want to jump through the hoops to go up for promotion. There are only so many M and D slots and plenty of competition for them.
Just say you didn’t get promoted
'just say it wasn't you'
As far as I can tell, manager is the worst position in consulting. You’re the one ultimately responsible for delivering the work. You have to manage the people working below you and the expectations of the sellers above you. You’re also responsible for presenting all the work to the client.
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OP your right, but it's a short sighted view. Manager is hard, but Sr manager isnt much if any harder. Nor is director. So, once you hit manager, you can get promoted again and again for more and more money.
P1, how long did take for you to make it to partner at your firm?
Manager is just different work not necessarily more work. I spend more time coaching, leading client meetings, and helping guide my teams. I like this more than spending more time in spreadsheets or PowerPoints. I still do that but less of the tedious stuff.
It’s harder work imo
Individual contributor is where it’s at. Director level pay at 35-40hrs a week. Corporate management is a bunch of paper pushers with no authority. I don’t miss being a SM at all.
Manager is not “extreme responsibility”. It isn’t even middle management.
You’re my kind of person. I’ve recently indicted that I’d like to stay at senior instead of building my case for the manager promo. WLB >>
How long would you stay in your current level then?! Surely you’d have to become manager at some point especially as you get more experience etc
What company do you work for if you don’t mind me asking?
Do what makes you happy; but if you’re young, I’d caution against making drastic decisions to prevent future possible promotions. Even if you don’t want to explicitly be a manager, you could use the senior title to get a higher paying expert track role somewhere outside of consulting. Just food for thought, as EA1 said, high paying IC roles are tempting!
Trying to get me to “act like a manager” is when I was ready to exit consulting immediately. I have zero desire to be a manager and was perfectly satisfied as an SA doing actual SA work.
I would’ve stayed a little longer if after the first year in role the pressure to prove I could be a manager didn’t start (which at my firm is an extra 20-30k pay bump from a first year SA salary so they really needed to pump the brakes). Also not acting like a manager would make me below level which makes zero sense and seems like a way to just exploit cheap labor (companies used to have training salary bumps we need to bring those back).
Preachhhh!! I’m trying to leave before my S3 year begins.
Yes guys not worth it. Let us manage you.
I’m in the same boat. I just don’t feel like I have the expertise to perform at the manager level, given the crazy amount of responsibilities to lead client meetings, knowing what ur talking about- managing up and managing down. Becoming manager is daunting as hell
I think being a manager is good if there are no discrimination factors. I also don't want to be a 50 year old senior consultant. Manager is a logical next step after years of practice.
Even worse to NOT be a manager in title and salary, but assigned a manager role.
Just wait till you see the Senior Manager value prop
What’s the value prop of SM
Doing less of what you like to babysit/teach others how to do it right.
What does the pay bump to manager roughly look like?
My base increased 10% when I got promoted and it def didn’t feel worth it, but last year wasn’t a great year. Bonus could change that though lol
The meetings are daunting.
Chief
What if you just don’t attend the meetings?
Well, I agree to a certain extent! On a manager level you will be more focusing on leadership and you will expose your self to people management. If you are a technical manager it is okay also because you will be doing the same task for extra 10%. 😉