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Advice needed - boyfriend has almost 3.5 years of finance experience at a bank. Interviewed for PwC valuation senior associate and now recruiter says they want to hire him at “experienced associate” because he has no valuation experience. Is this too big of a step backwards in career? Should he push back and see if it gets him anywhere? If he does accept Associate, is it reasonable to ask for written, definitive timeline (1 year?) for promo to Senior upon meeting standards? Help!
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Leave when you find something that sounds amazing. In your situation I’d start looking with no pressure and just wait for an opportunity you can’t resist. I just left my job of 7 years last year (had 2 babies while there). I was liked but not valued. The new job gave me the opportunity to be seen with fresh eyes and to establish better boundaries and dynamics. There’s the renewed challenge of having to prove myself again and the reminder that each place functions in a different way, so it can be a bit stressful until you learn the ropes.
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The way I have talked about my long tenure in interviews is that “ I have an extremely supportive boss who always gave me a new challenge when I needed it. But I’m at the point where I need to decide if I will grow more if I stay or go.” People seem to respond well to that.
It’s possible that I have really hurt myself by staying, but my husband makes less than entry-level advertising people, so I don’t feel comfortable moving unless I have a good degree of certainty that this new job will work out. So far I have only come across one or two opportunities that I thought could be worth the jump, but I had major doubts about the people and organizational culture.
But all this said, I think it only gets harder as you get more senior, as there are fewer openings at higher levels. So if you’re feeling the itch it’s a good time. But you shouldn’t feel the need to leave just because of your tenure. If you’ve been given new challenges you have a story to tell about your time to show for it. Also, agencies have had plenty of opportunities to cut the dead weight, so the fact you’re still around shows you are valued.
That specific language is helpful, thank you! 100% captures how I feel. I have a solid story about new clients pushing us to new places in the business and how I applied those learnings to prepare us for even more growth. This is a good reminder to write it down / put numbers behind it.
I recently resigned after 9 years with a large agency. In interviews with potential new employers, I got the sense people thought it was way too long. A few dared to be presumptuous (they assumed I was ok being comfortable and lacked the drive or ambition that keeps others from staying in one place for too long, etc.). Several people pointed out that my decision to move on is the right one. I couldnt agree more. Essentialy it seemed that my tenure was seen as a negative more often that not.
What is too long for any one position will differ than another (and perhaps across industries too).
My advice is to look around because you never know what you may stumble on. Another option is to move laterally if possible (assuming there are multiple VPs at your company and there is another area that interests you and makes sense for you).
This is helpful, thank you! I’ve had five roles at the agency over my tenure, either moving up or laterally every two-ish years. I certainly don’t lack ambition since it’s been an all out hustle to grow this place. But, I do worry about the perception/presumptions. I think a lot of the nervousness is what it looks like on paper and perhaps an interview can help add more context and directly address it as you mention.
How’s your new gig?