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honestly, just for the sake of not having to deal with straight people. i’m a big fan of gay bars as date locations. that said, Rise wouldn’t be my choice either. counter with someplace like Nowhere or Julius.
Agree. You can suggest a place
Counter propose and select a wine bar. There’s one on 52/10th or wine escape on 44/9 is also very cute.
Agree, start with a wine bar or something and then you can go to Rise or somewhere to make out. Mr Biggs is great. Rise in early evening is empty though, not loud