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Chief
I'm glad they restored your pay but several firms never cut pay to begin with.
Baker Tilly didn’t cut pay and actually gave raises
Nice try, Moss Adams HR.
Rising Star
???
https://goingconcern.com/layoff-watch-20-many-furloughed-moss-adams-employees-are-not-getting-their-jobs-back/
Based on your post you guys got $150 and some of your paycheck back (that was cut)
I may be cynical but it sounds like you’re farming for referral bonuses.
Rising Star
Wow I've never seen someone so shamelessly looking for a referral bonus.
A lot of firms didn't even have paycuts to begin with, and I'm just laughing at $150... Rumors of bonuses being reaccrued are true of every firm so that holds no substance.
If I'm looking to get out of big 4/PA, I'll go directly to industry. No offense, but I have never seen anyone from moss adams exit to a decent company. I've heard of people who exited to moss adams who hated it so much they boomeranged back to big 4, which blows my mind that it could be that bad.
I’ve gotten offers at a few fortune 50 companies with Moss only as my experience. Your experience at a firm is however you make it, including at a B4. You’ll figure it out if you make it manager in PA. The firms are the same.
Every firm has people who are pissed off at how they're treated. It's just that those are usually the loudest people.
Dude, just say you want the referral lol
Rising Star
EY8, It’s not the fact that this person wants referrals. It’s the underhanded way that the person has gone about it. Making claims that clearly aren’t supported by reality.
Chief
150$? Most other firms got double that for wfh stipends. I’ve had bad experiences recruiting with moss
The Moss WFH package was worth $860
Pro
I got a bonus and no pay cut so I’m good
I wish you people would get the facts right. Moss cut pay but restored it 100%. Then it paid almost $900 for WFH. Then it gave raises, then it gave $150 for Christmas and yes bonuses will be paid in January. Oh and by the way, Moss is hiring. I was in Big 4 for a few years and now Moss. Big 4 treats you like a number. You are a person at Moss
No I am not the head of recruiting. Moss made us take 4 days of PTO this coming week so that they could close operations. That wasn’t right. PTO is not theirs to appropriate. But it’s better than the unlimited PTO scam that the Big 4 is going on for. EY lead where others folllow
Never got a pay cut, still paid out bonus (yes smaller) and got $250 for wfh. Don’t see how pay cut, $150 and maybe a bonus is better
Pay cuts. But got EVERYTHING back. And NOBODY was laid off. I’m expecting a raise and a bonus. Plus I get a monthly work from home stipend. Maybe it’s not the best package, but I’m still impressed with how my firm handled everything/
Oh and promotions happened. Bonuses happened. And the regular pay increase happened too. Still no layoffs. Still getting $75/month for working from home.
What is Moss Adam’s bonus percentage?
For higher CoL maybe. For other places try 4%. I was rated strong and only got 6%.
We have $150 for monitor, $1,000 for fitness fund. A few $150 for applause award, does your firm also offer more?
The spike in layoffs (after freezing separations during covid) def took a lot of people by surprise, and the "flexible" pto is not cool, but overall I think EY is pretty good. Locally I feel like I'm treated well even if the moves by nationa leadership are not good
I actually got a market raise this year lol
Yep but big 4 partner salaries squish non big 4 partner salaries. We all work a lot - end game is better at B4 if you’re end game is public
Salary differences before partner are the same. They wouldn’t be able to compete with B4 for talent if it wasn’t. We can talk numbers all day. Those revenue gaps go to feed those programs you speak of and line partner pockets.
B4 is meant for large tier market. Mid tier like moss meant for mid tier clients. There are different skill sets for both.