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If I got to go fully remote for 35k more, then yes I would absolutely take it. If they're not going to give me room for advancement I'll eventually have to move on, but I'd honestly take a fully remote job for even less right now.
Mentor
Agreed, I went remote for basically the same base pay but for me I think it’s worth it
It depends on what you value. I value learning and accomplishment so that would be a hard no for me because it would be draining. Some people value peace and consistency so that would be a good move there.
That's a huge bump for a remote role - so absolutely. But if you don't have room for growth then be prepared to look again in a year or two.
Bowl Leader
This is good advice! I was thinking the same too!
The warning about no room for advancement seems odd, but you're right that it could be a good sign that they're being honest. And, if you think about it, warning or no, the possibility of advancement is always unknown. If you're getting that salary bump to go totally remote, it seems like a very good deal, unless there's some issue yet to be discovered.
Bowl Leader
Yes, I would prefer them being honest instead of years down the road finding out the hard way!
Taking a lateral move is going to give you a chance to learn different things and make a different impact. I’ve worked at companies where there is generally a 5% cap on raises for internal moves.
As for there being no room for advancement - do they mean in your current role or the lateral move or both? Are you the one pushing for something new/more? Have you spoken about what you want out of your career and how to achieve those goals? Are they telling you that you’re valuable where you are, but not showing the promise needed to move up in the company? How honest have the conversations been on both sides?
Oddly, the recruiter was talking to me initially about a higher salary that would be considered ‘director level’. They came back to me saying the company is interested in me, but they want to confirm I’m “willing to be a doer and not crave 'management' advancement and are truly content sitting in that space.”
We haven’t talked about my overall career goals, but I think I’d be comfortable with this title and salary for a while until I decide I want to move on and up. I think it’s a small agency and there just isn’t a structure for me to move up with the people/team they currently have in place.
It's all about what your priorities are. Not everyone prioritizes growth (because everyone cannot be at the top of the pyramid anyway), but I'd say almost all of us would appreciate more money, especially for the same work we're already doing (assuming the other benefits are roughly the same). If you want growth still that's fine to chase after a 1-3 years of getting paid more in the meantime!
Take it for experience. May not be room for advancement there but you can use the experience there for advancement elsewhere.
Layering this in for anyone interested in going deeper on this with me…
Beyond the money and remote status comparison, there’s a lot of reasons I’d stay at my current job;
1. Sure, it’s hybrid, but it’s in the city where my partner is planning to move back to and where their family lives. We want to have kids in the next 2-3 years, and while it’s a HCOL city, we have support and will have subsidized rent with the home their parents own.
2. My current position has IVF and adoption benefits, which we may need being in our mid/late 30’s having kids. No idea on the new position benefits but they haven’t shared that as a ‘selling point’ benefit yet.
3. Current job is an employee owned company and I’ll be fully bought into the ESOP in 5 more years. Sure, that’s a while, but people do stay here for 10-20 years. We’ve had people retire who have been here 27 and 32 years. There’s also been no layoffs since the pandemic, they have great leadership and it’s an industry that is growing.
4. I am SO LOVED. I see my value everyday and how much I’m appreciated. My managers want me happy and praise my work. I know there’s so much opportunity to move up and they typically promote from within. I’m not afraid of starting over, but this is a rare work environment and I’m so grateful for this.
5. I really love my job; I’m great at it, I see how I’m getting better, and I truly enjoy my clients.
TLDR; it seems obvious to take a higher salary and remote status… but is it worth the risk of loosing something that seems so right?
Bowl Leader
So it’s the same title change but 35k more and full remote and no career advancement? I would say just take it for now and later in a few years just reassess?